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Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:21 pm
Atheism ,another Religion?
Before you dismiss the question ; As recently reported in the New York Times, military personnel who identify themselves as "Atheists" have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs.
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:27 pm
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Theism = religion. Atheism = without religion.
How hard is that to understand?
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:28 pm
It seems like their sitting on the fence, calling themselves atheist, but just in case they also want the chaplain, na, their not for real.
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:32 pm
Also, how exactly does a few people who call themselves atheists requesting a chaplain make atheism a religion?
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:35 pm
"Spritual needs" is fairly wide open. If some joe wants prayer beads shaken over his head before he gets shot at next, for example...
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:35 pm
(May 27, 2014 at 10:21 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: Atheism ,another Religion?
Before you dismiss the question ; As recently reported in the New York Times, military personnel who identify themselves as "Atheists" have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs.
Care to cite your sources?
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:37 pm
(May 27, 2014 at 10:32 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Also, how exactly does a few people who call themselves atheists requesting a chaplain make atheism a religion?
Not all the SS were atheists ,less than half . But they had no chaplains.
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:46 pm
(May 27, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: (May 27, 2014 at 10:32 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Also, how exactly does a few people who call themselves atheists requesting a chaplain make atheism a religion?
Not all the SS were atheists ,less than half . But they had no chaplains.
That's irrelevant, and doesn't answer my question. Also, how do you know what proportion of the SS were atheists? I'm pretty sure there weren't any publicly atheist SS going around at that time.
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:48 pm
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2014 at 10:53 pm by Artur Axmann.)
(May 27, 2014 at 10:46 pm)Sejanus Wrote: (May 27, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: Not all the SS were atheists ,less than half . But they had no chaplains.
That's irrelevant, and doesn't answer my question. Also, how do you know what proportion of the SS were atheists? I'm pretty sure there weren't any publicly atheist SS going around at that time.
Surveys did not originate with Mr. Neilsen.
(May 27, 2014 at 10:35 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (May 27, 2014 at 10:21 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: Atheism ,another Religion?
Before you dismiss the question ; As recently reported in the New York Times, military personnel who identify themselves as "Atheists" have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs.
Care to cite your sources?
As recently reported in the New York Times, military personnel who identify themselves as "Atheists" have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs. As the Times article notes, "Defense Department statistics show that about 9,400 of the nation's 1.4 million active-duty military personnel identify themselves as atheists or agnostics, making them a larger subpopulation than Jews, Muslims, Hindus or Buddhists in the military." Having their own chaplains, the article explains, would give Atheists a sense of legitimacy and help validate their own system of values and beliefs.
The U.S. Government reports that in 2008 those identifying themselves specifically as "Atheist" composed the 18th largest group of 43 possible categories of "self-described religious identification." The number of persons so identifying themselves almost doubled from seven years earlier. Admittedly, "Atheist" is one of the options listed under "no religion specified," but given that other options for respondents included checking "Agnostic" or "No Religion" or not answering the question at all, it appears that identifying oneself specifically as an Atheist, as opposed to simply "not religious," is growing in appeal. This points to the utility of a distinction made by Jonathan Lanman between "non-theists," those with no particular religious belief, and "strong atheists," those who view religion not only as irrelevant but as misguided and dangerous.
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RE: Is no Religion a Religion.
May 27, 2014 at 10:55 pm
In the eyes of many religiousites, participating in the wrong religion is equivalent to atheism, particularly it seems, if that wrong religion is just a whit different from the right one.
I'm thinking of that group of amish with hat brims that are the WRONG WIDTH !!!!! OMFG !!!!!
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