GoT s4e8

[Clueless Morgan]

And yes:

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No kidding! I'll pout for 10 months and then tune in for season 5. :p

And damn you all for tempting me with spoilers!!

[SteelCurtain]

Hee hee. I love it. The next two episodes are going to be like the last two episodes of last season. Epic sauce! I can't wait!

The series is departing from the books in a lot of ways, particularly bran's story line. But on the Lannister side, they are staying pretty true. I am (neutral non-spoiler emotion) about it.

[max-greece]

Tyrion...

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can't die, he's easily the most interesting character on the show.

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Spoiler talk/rant:

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Too true. I would actually stop watching if he died. But I read up on where his storyline is going. I'm not really keen on it, the best thing about him is the interplay between him and his family members, without that it might not be quite as good.

In all honesty though, I'm kind of getting sick of how GoT never really goes anywhere. It seems to be paced so slowly. I know this is probably because it's a tv show, but damn, I wanna see Daenarys launching her army and attacking Westeros by now. They've been going on about white walkers since the very beginning, and 4 seasons in they've done pretty much fuck all. Every time a character gets killed off it's almost like the story just resets back the beginning, or some other guy you've not heard of is introduced. Admittedly I haven't read the books, but I've seen people who have read them complain about the same sort of thing in the books themselves. How inevitably nobody really 'wins' and it just ends up frustrating you.

I mean, does George RR Martin actually have an ending for this shit?

Not that I necessarily want it to end, it's my favourite TV series, but I dunno, something drives me nuts about how none of the 'good guys' ever get a win. Like I get that that's part of the books major appeal. That it isn't fairytale in that sense. But any of the characters who you would consider as the 'good guys' don't seem to go anywhere. I mean, Jon's storyline typifies it. He goes and joins up with Mance's army, ends up fucking off again and rejoins the nights watch, back to square one. All seems pretty pointless and it's kind of wearing a bit thin now after 4 seasons. The stakes don't really seem to be raised, the excitement and urgency is the same as it was in season 1 in all honesty.

/endrant.

Anyone else get this feeling?

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Its not that Martin kills off the good guys - he blows away baddies too. His MO is to create a complex character with a convoluted back-story and then, just as you are warming to them, just as you are starting to think about all the things that character can and will do - then he bumps them off.

Invariably, additionally, he makes those deaths stupid, wasteful and unjust - surely you picked that up from the Red Wedding.

More ignominious ends await I assure you, one in particular.

[wolf39us]

That ending was fricken gruesome and I LOVED it

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[Clueless Morgan]

Hee hee. I love it. The next two episodes are going to be like the last two episodes of last season. Epic sauce! I can't wait!

The series is departing from the books in a lot of ways, particularly bran's story line. But on the Lannister side, they are staying pretty true. I am (neutral non-spoiler emotion) about it.

Spoiler talk/rant:

WHOA!! DELETE NOW VISIBLE TEXT FROM EDITOR WINDOW BEFORE I READ SOMETHING!!!!

Okay, phew, that was close...

Its not that Martin kills off the good guys - he blows away baddies too. His MO is to create a complex character with a convoluted back-story and then, just as you are warming to them, just as you are starting to think about all the things that character can and will do - then he bumps them off.

Perhaps it's just the way the show has diverged from the books but I don't find Jon Snow to be that compelling of a character anymore. Whenever we go up to the wall I always want to see Sam and Gilly, both of whom I see as more complex and who currently have more compelling stories.

I'm also kind of starting to get that feeling with Dany, which sucks because I loved her character in seasons 1 and 2. The parts of the show with her have gotten boring to me.

Invariably, additionally, he makes those deaths stupid, wasteful and unjust - surely you picked that up from the Red Wedding.

More ignominious ends await I assure you, one in particular.

In someways I like that some of the deaths in GOT have been stupid, wasteful and unjust - if every death had a sense of poetic justice or every character got what was coming to them things would get boring and predictable very fast. Keeping thing "realistic" keeps people guessing and in the real world people die for stupid, wasteful and unjust reasons.

[Mystical]

I'm concerned the writers of this show might just piss me off one too many times for me to get invested in it. Knowing that, would you recommend the show still?

[Jackalope]

Perhaps it's just the way the show has diverged from the books but I don't find Jon Snow to be that compelling of a character anymore.

You know, I used to find Jon Snow to be an interesting character.

Now I *want* him dead.

[Jackalope]

I'm concerned the writers of this show might just piss me off one too many times for me to get invested in it. Knowing that, would you recommend the show still?

yes.

Just don't get attached to... well, anybody.

[Napoléon]

You know, I used to find Jon Snow to be an interesting character.

I had a serious man crush on that dude.

But after he ditched ygritte, he can get stuffed.

[Lemonvariable72]

I'm just going going to sit here with a smug smirk because I know what happens to tyrion.