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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 1:16 pm
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(July 15, 2014 at 9:30 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
Wow. . people here are very devoted to their belief and cannot accept even a slight constructive criticism. . .
(July 15, 2014 at 9:42 am)Bibliofagus Wrote: Butbut the quran confirms the book of recipes. What about that don't you guys understand?
O mankind,
eat from whatever is on earth
[that is] lawful
and good
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It covers everything. .
(July 15, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Rabb Allah Wrote: Allah literally means "The God". What about theism and atheism do you not understand?!
This bizarre auto-theism followed by this dogmatic use of the Qur'an is everything but atheism.
Doesn't make any difference at all. . . both are the same product, but with different labels.
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 2:32 pm
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I think what MA means to say, a better way to say it, is that he is a gnostic atheist, rather than an agnostic atheist which most people here are. A gnostic atheist, on the Richard Dawkins 7-point scale, is #7. He knows God doesn't exist because the Qur'an * itself* is manifest/evident.
An agnostic atheist doesn't feel he/she attains gnosis through the Qur'an, but only recognizes his/her own existence, and therefore follows his/her own conscience.
As for me, I find the Qur'an to have been abrogated/annulled (or you know as Christians say that the New Testament "fulfills" (LOL) the Old Testament) by the Baha'i revelation.
[Note: "Revelation" means "disclosure: the revealing of something previously hidden or secret", "information revealed: information that is newly disclosed, especially surprising, or valuable".]
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:13 pm
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(July 15, 2014 at 2:32 pm)logicalreason Wrote: I think what MA means to say, a better way to say it, is that he is a gnostic atheist, rather than an agnostic atheist which most people here are.
Yes. . I just checked and it says " a "gnostic atheist" is one that claims he not only believes there is no God, but also claims to know for sure that there isn't one".
That's true. . as for me it is impossible for God to exist at all. 100% sure.
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:13 pm
(July 15, 2014 at 4:13 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: (July 15, 2014 at 2:32 pm)logicalreason Wrote: I think what MA means to say, a better way to say it, is that he is a gnostic atheist, rather than an agnostic atheist which most people here are.
Yes. . I just checked and it says "a "gnostic atheist" is one that claims he not only believes there is no God, but also claims to know for sure that there isn't one".
That's true. . as for me it is impossible for God to exist at all.
Then why bring the Koran into it at all? It's just a book.
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:17 pm
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Because I like that Book . . its logical structure and framework, the wording and how it explains everything about life and nature etc. In fact, I have double degrees in law and I know the legal structure of legal documents. . and I can verify the truth of any statement in the Quran through logical principles.
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:19 pm
(July 15, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Because I like that Book . . its logical structure and framework and how it explains everything about life and nature etc. I have double degrees in law and I know the legal structure of legal documents. . and I can verify the truth of any statement in the Quran through logical principles.
So it's just a book that has good ideas in it. There are plenty of books like that.
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:21 pm
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I have addressed that issue. . .the Quran is just my starting point for new discovery.
(July 15, 2014 at 8:37 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Who says I'm not ? I follow the law written by men . . I follow education books written by men. . I follow all religious teachings written by men . . everything.
Maybe it is you who are not following everything, but according to your sect that you belong to. . . ie. sectarianism (is a religion).
I believe in ALL Gods, because I don't believe in God
One cannot disbelieve in other Gods by creating new God
I believe in ALL Religions, because I don't believe in Religion.
One cannot disbelieve in other religions by creating new same religion
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:22 pm
(July 15, 2014 at 4:21 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: I have addressed that issue. . .
(July 15, 2014 at 8:37 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Who says I'm not ? I follow the law written by men . . I follow education books written by men. . I follow all religious teachings written by men . . everything.
Maybe it is you who are not following everything, but according to your sect that you belong to. . . ie. sectarianism (is a religion).
I believe in ALL Gods, because I don't believe in God
One cannot disbelieve in other Gods by creating new God
I believe in ALL Religions, because I don't believe in Religion.
One cannot disbelieve in other religions by creating new same religion
And I'm saying that chart makes no sense at all. It's a simple question. Is the Koran just a book with some good ideas in it, like a number of other books?
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:31 pm
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(July 15, 2014 at 4:22 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: And I'm saying that chart makes no sense at all. It's a simple question. Is the Koran just a book with some good ideas in it, like a number of other books?
Yes. . it is a book with great ideas in it, and through the "confirming function" of the Quran . . .I make new discovery without "personal fallacy". Other books are full of contradictions. . I have experienced making bank lost millions of dollars and quite good at finding discrepancy in their contract and legal documents, and even statutory laws. So. .I know well what I'm talking about. .
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RE: I am God
July 15, 2014 at 4:40 pm
(July 15, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Because I like that Book . . its logical structure and framework, the wording and how it explains everything about life and nature etc. In fact, I have double degrees in law and I know the legal structure of legal documents. . and I can verify the truth of any statement in the Quran through logical principles.
Do you condone domestic violence against women?
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