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July 4, 2014 at 2:51 pm
(July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The single most pressing need is to dump anti-drug laws. All that the existing structure has done is enrich the cartels, cause the courts and police to undermine our civil liberties and make a mockery of the phrase: "Land of the free."
Not only that, but we're letting convicted murderers and rapists out on early parole because we have to make room for drug offenders.
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July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm
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(July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Assisted suicide and marijuana should be legal. I think gay marriage is pretty much legal in this state due to our Supreme Court ruling against a defense of marriage type act.
I'm sad that I have to say this living in a (purportedly) 1st-world country in the 21st century, but faith healing and allowing your child to die of an easily treatable illness because of religious convictions should be illegal. The latter isn't necessarily legal, but unless you're in one of the rare, enlightened places in America, you won't see any legal consequences for it.
Assisted suicide is the same as euthanasia? Or am I confusing? If so, it's debatable, but as long as there are people willingly to do it and the will of the person is respected, it's fine. Just don't force me to agree with the ethics of assisted suicide, you can do as you please.
(July 4, 2014 at 2:51 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The single most pressing need is to dump anti-drug laws. All that the existing structure has done is enrich the cartels, cause the courts and police to undermine our civil liberties and make a mockery of the phrase: "Land of the free."
Not only that, but we're letting convicted murderers and rapists out on early parole because we have to make room for drug offenders.
Why the fuck do countries still send people to jail for doing drugs? Seriously a drug user is not a danger to society so severely that he needs to be sentenced to jail
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July 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/03/si...ime-falls/
Quote:Six months after marijuana legalization: Colorado tax revenue skyrockets as crime falls
Quote: Six months on, Colorado’s marijuana shops are mushrooming, with support from local consumers, weed tourists and federal government taking a wait-and-see attitude.
Tax dollars are pouring in, crime is down in Denver, and few of the early concerns about social breakdown have materialized – at least so far.
The cops must be shitting their pants.
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July 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
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Drugs, prostitution, marriage for competent consenting adults, driving without a seatbelt if you're over 18, all abortions...there's probably more haha
Yup the right to die
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RE: Legalization.
July 4, 2014 at 3:12 pm
Quote:Why the fuck do countries still send people to jail for doing drugs? Seriously a drug user is not a danger to society so severely that he needs to be sentenced to jail
Chris Rock is more right than wrong.
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July 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm
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(July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Blackout Wrote: Why the fuck do countries still send people to jail for doing drugs? Seriously a drug user is not a danger to society so severely that he needs to be sentenced to jail
The only drug related jail time that I approve is for selling drugs to minors.
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RE: Legalization.
July 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm
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(July 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm)Losty Wrote: (July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Blackout Wrote:
Why the fuck do countries still send people to jail for doing drugs? Seriously a drug user is not a danger to society so severely that he needs to be sentenced to jail
The only drug related jail time that I approve is for selling drugs to minors.
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Well of course but the same could be said about selling cigarettes. I'm not talking about selling, but using per se, the act of consumption shouldn't be punishable. Here it is not punishable but it may be illegal on public space. Even hard drugs are not, even though jail time for trafficking those is higher.
(July 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Losty Wrote: Drugs, prostitution, marriage for competent consenting adults, driving without a seatbelt if you're over 18, all abortions...there's probably more haha
Yup the right to die
Driving without a seat belt should get you a fine. Not jailtime
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July 4, 2014 at 3:18 pm
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(July 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm)Blackout Wrote: (July 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Losty Wrote: Drugs, prostitution, marriage for competent consenting adults, driving without a seatbelt if you're over 18, all abortions...there's probably more haha
Yup the right to die
Driving without a seat belt should get you a fine. Not jailtime
I disagree. I don't think it should be illegal at all.
I don't need the government to protect me from myself. I am perfectly capable of deciding whether or not I wish to risk my own life while putting no one else at risk.
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July 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm
(July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Blackout Wrote: Assisted suicide is the same as euthanasia? Or am I confusing? If so, it's debatable, but as long as there are people willingly to do it and the will of the person is respected, it's fine. Just don't force me to agree with the ethics of assisted suicide, you can do as you please.
Yup, it's the same.
What exactly about the ethics of the issue do you not agree with?
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RE: Legalization.
July 4, 2014 at 3:22 pm
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(July 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm)Blackout Wrote: Well of course but the same could be said about selling cigarettes. I'm not talking about selling, but using per se, the act of consumption shouldn't be punishable. Here it is not punishable but it may be illegal on public space. Even hard drugs are not, even though jail time for trafficking those is higher.
The same is said for cigarettes. It is illegal to sell cigarettes to minors.
Aside from that the sale, purchase, and use of cigarettes is legal.
The same should be said for all drugs. IMO
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