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(July 17, 2014 at 12:10 am)Zidneya Wrote: Well…
Considering that according to the bible we are already catalogued as condemned because of what Adam and Eve did prior our birth.
And then saved only if we accept the salvation from jesus sacrifice that happens as well before our birth.
Yea I think is fair to assume that the bible is a universally binding contract.
And it's the worst kind of contract. One we were tagged along without even asking us first what we think.
You do realize that there were countless other people dancing around the world at the same time Adam and Eve were supposedly holding conversations with a talking serpent?
July 17, 2014 at 4:54 am (This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 4:55 am by Ryantology.)
(July 14, 2014 at 9:07 pm)Lek Wrote: What is your definition of a "good" person. Is it a person who always does good or a person who does good most of the time? What is the dividing line between a good and a bad person? Is a good person one who does fifty or more good things a year and a bad person one who does less than fifty good things a year? Maybe it's more a question of how good or how bad the things they do are. Who judges how good or how bad someone is?
Your savior?
According to him, though, none of you are good and none of you are even putting forth minimal effort in trying to be good.
July 17, 2014 at 5:04 am (This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 5:07 am by Mudhammam.)
Mother Theresa was an ignorant fool. I don't disparage the comfort she gave to the dying, I disparage her for taking money that didn't belong to her (from convicted swindler Charles Keating), preferring that people suffer rather than have access to quality medical treatment (which she hypocritically utilized when her own health was failing and she flew to first-class Western medical facilities), and for allowing herself to be used as a pawn by the Vatican to further their anti-contraceptives agenda.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
(July 16, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Lek Wrote: I think there are people who do some good things, but overall, there are no really good people. I think we're all bad people.
Being a Christian does wonders for some people's self esteem, I see.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
(July 16, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Lek Wrote: I think there are people who do some good things, but overall, there are no really good people. I think we're all bad people.
Being a Christian does wonders for some people's self esteem, I see.
I don't know ... maybe they find comfort knowing they won't suffer alone?
July 17, 2014 at 9:33 am (This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 9:39 am by Anomalocaris.)
(July 16, 2014 at 8:16 am)Cato Wrote:
(July 16, 2014 at 7:08 am)Mr Greene Wrote: Mother Teresa was not a good person.
She's fertilizer now...
And what wonderful fertilizer, shit makes the best kind.
Only for the more gullible kinds of weeds.
(July 16, 2014 at 10:42 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 16, 2014 at 10:16 pm)ignoramus Wrote: To think the poor woman dedicated her life to helping others just to rot away.
I believe her soul is in earth's upper atmosphere!
My GPS spotted it whilst triangiulating sattelites, and for some weird reason, the GPS kept wanting to take me to the closest church!
(Excluding toll roads and unsealed surfaces of course).
You guys actually have the gall to try to disparage Mother Teresa's lifetime work which gave comfort and hope to thousands of needy people. I have to say that shows a lot of class and compassion.
No. We have perspective. She may have gave thousands comfort in need, but she tried her hardest to make millions needy when they have it within their own independent powers to not be. She was an outstanding racket of one, which is why she is a saint. Christianity likes nothing more than racketeers and is nothing more than a racket itself. Christianity has always regarded helping some as price of entry into the take, to enslave many.
(July 16, 2014 at 10:16 pm)ignoramus Wrote: To think the poor woman dedicated her life to helping others just to rot away.
I believe her soul is in earth's upper atmosphere!
My GPS spotted it whilst triangiulating sattelites, and for some weird reason, the GPS kept wanting to take me to the closest church!
(Excluding toll roads and unsealed surfaces of course).
You guys actually have the gall to try to disparage Mother Teresa's lifetime work which gave comfort and hope to thousands of needy people. I have to say that shows a lot of class and compassion.
You're blinded by your own bullshit, Lek. Wash it out of your eyes and learn some facts.
Quote:As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.
"What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true."
"These are letters that were kept in the archbishop's house," the Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk told Phillips.
But such is the marketing power of 'saints' in the catholic business community that the fuckers went ahead. Anything to give the dolts something else to pray to.
(July 16, 2014 at 10:42 pm)Lek Wrote: You guys actually have the gall to try to disparage Mother Teresa's lifetime work which gave comfort and hope to thousands of needy people. I have to say that shows a lot of class and compassion.
You're blinded by your own bullshit, Lek. Wash it out of your eyes and learn some facts.
Quote:As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.
"What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true."
"These are letters that were kept in the archbishop's house," the Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk told Phillips.
But such is the marketing power of 'saints' in the catholic business community that the fuckers went ahead. Anything to give the dolts something else to pray to.
Not to mention the hypocrisy and stark fundamentalism she exhibited while she was alive. To paraphrase a Hitchens quote, she was not a friend of the poor, she was a friend of poverty. She thought poverty and suffering were a gift from God. She didn't spend the millions of dollars she drew in on medical equipment or building hospitals, she used it to build convents with her name on them. Her flagship "House for the Dying" was exactly that. It wasn't a hospice or a hospital, it was a cramped, dirty building where people went to die under the rules of the Catholic church. She spent her whole career fighting against women's rights to regulate their own reproductive system (something which Calcutta was in dire need of and would've been supremely helpful). She spoke against allowing Irish women to divorce their husbands even if the husbands beat them, yet also praised Princess Diana for getting a divorce. She witheld decent medical treatment from the people that came to her in their suffering, while flying around in private jets and receiving the most modern medical care when she needed it. In her Nobel acceptance speech, she said that cotnraception was morally equivalent to abortion, and that abortion was morally equivalent to murder, and that abortion was the single most dangerous threat to world peace. The list goes on.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
July 17, 2014 at 12:15 pm (This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 12:19 pm by Lek.)
(July 17, 2014 at 5:04 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Mother Theresa was an ignorant fool. I don't disparage the comfort she gave to the dying, I disparage her for taking money that didn't belong to her (from convicted swindler Charles Keating), preferring that people suffer rather than have access to quality medical treatment (which she hypocritically utilized when her own health was failing and she flew to first-class Western medical facilities), and for allowing herself to be used as a pawn by the Vatican to further their anti-contraceptives agenda.
I would look beyond Christopher Hitchens to establish my opinion of Mother Teresa. The good she did was enormous and continues today. She's recognized by people of all faiths around the world for the work she did during her lifetime. Hitchens' agenda is to try to discredit Christianity. The method is to find a revered Christian and come up with a way to try to systematically tear her apart. He's a joke. I wonder where Mother Teresa kept her stash. I guess she died before she got her chance to run off to some exotic locale and live a life of luxury before she walked into the arms of God.
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