How I got Out of Religion.

[David Henson]

I know this is most likely applied in an atheistic sense, but I attended a church only once when I was about 5 or 6 years old. Before I even sat down I ran - literally ran - away from it. 9 or 10 blocks home in the rain and never went back. Never will. There has never been, and there never will be, a religion that remains true even to itself.

[Purple Rabbit]

Well I guess everybody has the right on his own DIY version of truth. But where does this stop? Should we even make a fuzz about planes flying in buildings then? Is there such a thing as shared knowledge?

[David Henson]

Well I guess everybody has the right on his own DIY version of truth. But where does this stop? Should we even make a fuzz about planes flying in buildings then? Is there such a thing as shared knowledge?

I know, its hard to believe that something can be good without being mass produced. Dumbed down and fucked up. Bought and paid for. Public education, governments, religion . . .

[Purple Rabbit]

Well I guess everybody has the right on his own DIY version of truth. But where does this stop? Should we even make a fuzz about planes flying in buildings then? Is there such a thing as shared knowledge?

I know, its hard to believe that something can be good without being mass produced. Dumbed down and fucked up. Bought and paid for. Public education, governments, religion . . .

Do you really think that the choice is between the negatives of mass production and fucking up your own brain with illogic. What about arguments? Don't they somehow count?

[David Henson]

Well I guess everybody has the right on his own DIY version of truth. But where does this stop? Should we even make a fuzz about planes flying in buildings then? Is there such a thing as shared knowledge?

I know, its hard to believe that something can be good without being mass produced. Dumbed down and fucked up. Bought and paid for. Public education, governments, religion . . .

Do you really think that the choice is between the negatives of mass production and fucking up your own brain with illogic. What about arguments? Don't they somehow count?

Thats why I'm here. I love arguments. The choice isn't between "mass production" and fucking up your own brain with illogic; it would be or What I'm saying is that you can think on your own, and if you criticise the Bible I would think you had good reason to do so, if I didn't already know that 9 times out of 10 that isn't the case. Its the same with people who claim to believe the Bible as well. 9 times out of 10 they don't know it either.

[Purple Rabbit]

Do you really think that the choice is between the negatives of mass production and fucking up your own brain with illogic. What about arguments? Don't they somehow count?

Thats why I'm here. I love arguments.

That's a relief. So what are your arguments concerning the claim that your bible interpretation is anyway near absolute truth?

The choice isn't between "mass production" and fucking up your own brain with illogic; it would be or

OMG, are you a purist on language? The 'and' was meant as an enumeration of choices. Is that in your grammar book?

What I'm saying is that you can think on your own, and if you criticise the Bible I would think you had good reason to do so, if I didn't already know that 9 times out of 10 that isn't the case. Its the same with people who claim to believe the Bible as well. 9 times out of 10 they don't know it either.

So are you in the 9 out o 10 category and how are you gonna prove that to me?

[Samson]

That's not sarcasm I see but ignorance!

Truly one of those, "Agree to disagree" on the ignorant comment....You and I could go back and forth all day long. I'm not the one that believes in an invisible "Man-daddy" in the sky...

Tack, do you believe in a "Hell".....

[tackattack]

Do I believe in a hell, based of general definition no, but that would depend solely on your definition of hell since I'm not a subsriber.

[Samson]

Do I believe in a hell, based of general definition no, but that would depend solely on your definition of hell since I'm not a subsriber.

Interesting...

So do you believe that "Hell" is the darkness from "God"... In other words, if you die tomorrow and are not "Basking" in the light of Heaven and the "godly" light, this would be hell for you?

Just a question, no more, no less.....I'm not making fun, or trying to cart you out for a secularization...

[tackattack]

Lol well no one's yet to define hell, and despite it's not my burden to prove I'l go ahead and define. Just beacuse I believe heaven exists does not neccesitate the existance of a hell. I believe if we are beholden to God we return to God's presence (heaven)when we die. I believe atheists are completely right that for them there is nothing when they die, that would be hell for me. Spending a lifetime, or several, apart from God's Love stuck in endless cycles of birth and death would be hell. Yes I feel predominantly that it's the absense of God that is hell. I mean Jesus cast out demon to hell, but God cast down satan to wander the earth on his belly... I see some signifigance there.