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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 4:59 pm
(August 12, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Chuck Wrote: (August 12, 2014 at 3:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If the Imperial Valley dries up the whole country will feel the effects on the supermarket shelves.
Considering almost all of imperial valley is well below sea level a moderate one time effort can ensure it stays quite wet permanently.
(August 12, 2014 at 3:29 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: True enough, seems unlikely to lead to a civil war.
If Mexico was a real country, the wanton and sometimes total hijacking of water from Colorado river by the US, partly to water imperial valley, would have led to war.
Several major rivers in Asia, vital to the agricultures of India and Vietnam, originates from china. China is chronically short of water, and with global warming the situation is expected to get dramatically worse. To deal with this the Chinese intends to do on these rivers and to those countries exactly what the United States did on the Colorado river to Mexico, and has started major hydroelectric, aqueduct and irrigation projects that would reserve almost all water flowing in these rivers for use in china and all but stop all water from reaching down stream. This could very well collapse the agriculture in wide swaths of India and Vietnamese and lead to either war directly for water rights, or war nominally for other reasons but fundamentally with water rights as a major driving factor.
A lot of hypotheticals there (most of which have little to do with drought) and Mexico invading the United States wouldn't be a civil war. Besides, my original point was more one of wording than anything else. It's not the drought that causes war but the starvation.
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Quote:Mexico invading the United States wouldn't be a civil war.
Listening to the jackasses running the show here in AZ they already are invading.... even though they are not.
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 8:16 pm
(August 12, 2014 at 2:39 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (August 11, 2014 at 7:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: Isn't that state expecting heavy rain in a few months?
It's been one of the worst drought years in California history. I don't know about the rain forecast, but that would be good. My post was more a parody of the fact that it's not the drought that causes war, but the subsequent starvation that follows. I.E. California has a drought but definitely will not be going to war.
California has cycles...from what I have read, that cycle is switching back to what they call El Nino, apparently a period of heavy rainfall not seen since the late 1990s. Might even get more torrential rain than Arizona.
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 9:01 pm
If memory serves, the last time California got hammered with rain storms they were having mud slides.
Those people are never happy.
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 9:17 pm
(August 6, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I wish I still had access to the Denver Library, they ordered papers and books beyond the popular press, so we could read the actual scientific papers when the controversy began. Alas we no longer have access to a library anything like that.
Jenny, yes you do. 
http://prospector.coalliance.org/
Salem Public Library is (or at least was when I was last there) a member of prospector. You can find damn near anything there.
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 9:52 pm
(August 12, 2014 at 9:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If memory serves, the last time California got hammered with rain storms they were having mud slides.
Those people are never happy.
At least we have variety. We have earthquakes, mudslides, draughts, and an occasional volcanic eruption. If we only had tornados we'd be good.
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 10:04 pm
(August 12, 2014 at 9:52 pm)Chuck Wrote: (August 12, 2014 at 9:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If memory serves, the last time California got hammered with rain storms they were having mud slides.
Those people are never happy.
At least we have variety. We have earthquakes, mudslides, draughts, and an occasional volcanic eruption. If we only had tornados we'd be good.
Don't you get micro cyclones and tornadoes?
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 12, 2014 at 11:06 pm
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Our tornados don't hold a candle to those in the alley. But our earthquakes, mudslides, draughts and volcanos all have world class potential.
I forgot, we also have flood potential to be a fire hose next to the runny faucet the hurricane Katrina turned on New Orleans.
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RE: Drought Leads To War.
August 13, 2014 at 12:49 am
(August 12, 2014 at 9:52 pm)Chuck Wrote: (August 12, 2014 at 9:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If memory serves, the last time California got hammered with rain storms they were having mud slides.
Those people are never happy.
At least we have variety. We have earthquakes, mudslides, draughts, and an occasional volcanic eruption. If we only had tornados we'd be good.
That is one way to look at it. You're the eternal optimist, man.
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