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Tacitus
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 (August 19, 2014 at 3:41 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:39 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: assertions Reported for spam.  (August 19, 2014 at 3:43 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:41 am)Esquilax Wrote: Given that multiple corroborations form the basis of every other religion too Nor does christianity: none of the gospel writers ever met Jesus.
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August 19, 2014 at 3:48 am
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 (August 19, 2014 at 3:43 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:41 am)Esquilax Wrote: Given that multiple corroborations form the basis of every other religion too From a book called "Problems and Materials on Trial Advocacy": Eyewitness testimony is, at best, evidence of what the witness believes to have occurred. It may or may not tell what actually happened. The familiar problems of perception, of gauging time, speed, height, weight, of accurate identification of persons accused of crime all contribute to making honest testimony something less than completely credible. Another problem with your "argument" (very loose use of this word, considering all you have done is repeat the same stuff over and over) is that you have failed to demonstrate that the "eyewitness" accounts are exactly that. If I write a few different documents, from the point of view of various people I make up, claiming they saw something happen, then there is no way that they would be accepted as credible. You are claiming these eyewitness testimonies are genuine, so prove that.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
Eyewitnesses are unreliable: people lie.
There's no reason to believe they didn't.
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Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped. Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses. Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder. Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids." RE: Tacitus
August 19, 2014 at 3:56 am
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(August 19, 2014 at 3:54 am)Tobie Wrote: [i]Eyewitness testimony is, at best, evidence of what the witness believes to have occurred. They believed they saw Jesus alive from the dead. None ever said otherwise. These multiple sources are from different people. What better evidence could there be than what we have in the NT? (August 19, 2014 at 3:56 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:54 am)Tobie Wrote: [i]Eyewitness testimony is, at best, evidence of what the witness believes to have occurred. So your argument has now become "no one wrote down that they didn't see Jesus get resurrected"? How desperate are you? You cannot use the NT as evidence for things written in the NT. It is called circular reasoning and is a fallacy.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
RE: Tacitus
August 19, 2014 at 4:02 am
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2014 at 4:02 am by revivin.)
(August 19, 2014 at 4:00 am)Tobie Wrote: You cannot use the NT as evidence for things written in the NT. It is called circular reasoning and is a fallacy. I don't think it is circular reasoning. You would have show that. What the NT is is various individuals recording history. And they all agree the 12 Apostles believed they saw Jesus alive from the dead in various groups. What better evidence could you ask for? (August 19, 2014 at 3:56 am)revivin Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 3:54 am)Tobie Wrote: [i]Eyewitness testimony is, at best, evidence of what the witness believes to have occurred. You're either thick as a brick or a troll. I rest my case.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped. Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses. Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder. Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids." |
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