Tacitus

[FatAndFaithless]

The end is nye.

You rang?

[LastPoet]

Wait for it... wait for it....

[Ravenshire]

You seem to be having some trouble with the concept of burdon of proof. You are the one making the claim therefore the burdon is yours.

The Bible provides that proof so the burden is on you to find what would be better evidence? I can't think of any can you?

The buy-bull provides proof of nothing. It's an ancient text who's veracity is questionable at best. We don't even know who the actual authors are. Sorry, but the burden is still yours.

[JesusHChrist]

And then the Thread went silent;

a Darkness upon the Land.

And Lo! Then, in the distance did the Mod therefore spake unto the Transgressor....

- Book of Armaments, 13:36

[Fidel_Castronaut]

The end is nye.

Hopefully a slow and painful death.

It will be unimaginably painful, and then we shall feast on his flesh and consume his heart, making his strength our own.

[JesusHChrist]

It will be unimaginably painful, and then we shall feast on his flesh and consume his heart, making his strength our own.

Excellent!

I was feeling a bit peckish.

[Tonus]

[The Valkyrie]

can't confirm.

Besides, if dying in martyrdom is so impressive to you, I guess you're a muslim, right?

The early church fathers record the martyrdom of the Apostles. Paul was almost killed 7 times before he was martyred Clement of Rome said. James was the first to be martyred in Acts. I see all this martyrdom it's difficult not to accept it is martyrdom. Counter claims need evidence.

Just like Muslims the Apostles believed in their faith, but the difference is the Apostles believed in what they saw, not just a belief.

Bethany: You were martyred?
Rufus: That's one way of putting it. Another way of putting it would be to say that I was bludgeoned to shit by big fucking rocks.


All I see here is copied and pasted nonsense that has been discredited, followed by claims and desperate justifications.

[Minimalist]

Now that the shithead is gone, here is a discussion of Tacitus:

http://carrington-arts.com/cliff/Nero.htm

The two partial manuscripts were found in the Medici library dating from 1313 to 1375. It is only after this time, much after, that the story became almost an Article of Faith about the early Church.

The author, Carrington, writing in 1998 could not know that ten years later the manuscript would be photographed under ultraviolet light and show that even in the 11th century ( when the copy was made ) the original word was "chrestianos" not "christianos."



The copy which served as the basis for the current extant manuscript used a word which meant "followers of Chrestus" rather than "followers of Christus." Some helpful monk was trying to correct what he thought was a spelling error of Tacitus'. Except, Chrestianos matches what Suetonius wrote when he referred to Chrestus in the Life of Claudius.

Now, I fully understand that such nuances are totally lost on fuckheads like the dear departed revivin. I post this for the atheist wing of the party!

[DeistPaladin]

What better evidence could you ask for?

Damn! I came into this thread too late. Oh well, here's the answer I would have given.

Everyone, open up your Babble to...

16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Heal Steven Hawking.

The Babble says you can.