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Poll: Who do you think is right?
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Thunderf00t
72.22%
13 72.22%
Feminists
27.78%
5 27.78%
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Thunderf00t vs. Feminism
RE: Thunderf00t vs. Feminism
(September 27, 2014 at 11:43 am)Little lunch Wrote: I just think you should dig a little deeper then a Christina Hoff Sommers video.

My mind wasn't made up by that video, I posted it because it clearly communicates what I think.

(September 27, 2014 at 11:43 am)Little lunch Wrote: Telling me to go back to my women's studies professor and calling this all hysteria came directly from that video.

No it didn't, I said that then I posted the video. I told you to go back to your womens studies proffessor and to go back to tumblr after your comment about all men being sexist (or something along those lines) as it's just a too perfect stereotype not to use.

(September 27, 2014 at 11:43 am)Little lunch Wrote: It leads me to believe that maybe you haven't checked all the facts and might have been a little one minded in your research.

And your comments so far lead me to believe that you don't have anything that suggests that the wage gap is because of sexism.

(September 27, 2014 at 11:43 am)Little lunch Wrote: I honestly don't think any of those things about you or that you'd be stupid enough to voice some sought of anti-woman campaign here, and that goes for everyone else.
My view is that sexism is so enmeshed into society that many of us, including some women, can't see it.

That might be because it isn't there and you are seeing what you want to see.

(September 27, 2014 at 11:43 am)Little lunch Wrote: Let's agree to disagree. I don't want a fight with you.
I provide some links then you provide some that disagree with my links and so on.
That's a waste of time. How do I provide links to that which I've seen firsthand throughout society my whole life? Gender pay gaps, rape, violence and women treated as second class citizens.

Seeing as your experiences are subjective and you have offered no data or examples I would conclude that your experiences aren't as valid as links to actual data. And if i'm going to entertain the notion, I need to know a few things. How old are you and where do you live. Because the gender pay gap did exist in the past but it doesn't any more. What has rape got to do with it? Men rape each other in prison, it has nothing to do with sexism. Same goes for violence. And women as second class citizens? When? Where? What rights were being taken away?

(September 27, 2014 at 11:43 am)Little lunch Wrote: My belief is that by supporting feminism we also support ourselves, men.

Oh I support equal rights, but I don't support how we are going about it.
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RE: Thunderf00t vs. Feminism
Actually, I don't want this to go any further and turn into some shitstorm.
I said I didn't want to fight and that goes for all.
Now you can say I'm wrong because I didn't back it up with evidence.
That's fine by me, as long as I'm not fighting with other members because that's not what I came here for.
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RE: Thunderf00t vs. Feminism
You say fight, I say discuss.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Thunderf00t vs. Feminism
Cool. I'd prefer not to discuss it any further in case it turns into a fight and I don't want to be disliked for it.
So, if that's the case, I hear people wondering, why didn't I just keep my big mouth shut?
Coulda, shoulda, but I am now.
Please carry on with your discussions and let's pretend I never said anything.
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RE: Thunderf00t vs. Feminism
(September 27, 2014 at 2:02 pm)Little lunch Wrote: Cool. I'd prefer not to discuss it any further in case it turns into a fight and I don't want to be disliked for it.
So, if that's the case, I hear people wondering, why didn't I just keep my big mouth shut?
Coulda, shoulda, but I am now.
Please carry on with your discussions and let's pretend I never said anything.

We don't actually fight much here. We just discuss vigorously.

Besides you can't win. You shut up because people might not like you and then I won't like you. Tongue
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