Captian Worf to the bridge...

[The Valkyrie]

Read this over the weekend.

Fingers are crossed.

[Drich]

I hated Enterprise with a passion. And I've watched and been entranced with ST since the first series. TNG was the pinnacle for me, which reached its peak with the Borg and then species 8472 in Voyager.The last movie made it better. I couldn't stand the first series after TNG aired.

voyger was too much. granted I did like some of the characters, The Doctor, 7 of 9, and i did like some of the episodes, but not to crazy about the whole series itself.

I hated the first season of enterpise, but it grew on me. the xyndi epsoides when watched all at once made a good story line, but week to week was too long and drawn out. I also like how they explained the differences in the klingons from TOS to TNG, and tied in the andorieans. I also like the fact that they made the vulcans less of a race of holy monks and more militarized. Over all I think enterpise was an ok series

[fr0d0]

I hated the stupid Romulans too. They were dull enough in the first series. And the guy from quantum leap wore his welcome out decades ago. Somehow the last movie wasn't so bad. Hoping for a future

[Alex K]

Enterprise was such a giant missed opportunity that it makes me furious. Imagine the greatness that could have ensued if they had really dared to do a proper prequel during the dawn of human interstellar travel, where nothing is taken for granted, and nothing quite works. Imagine no proper automatic translators for everything (or unreliable ones!). No real transporter technology, navigation between the stars that is still an art form and can go wrong, and then do star trek with that. Drop some good writing on top of that, it would have been so epic.

What they did instead is upgrade the tech to basically TNG standards within a few episodes so they could recycle old storylines. And recycle old storylines they did, ad nauseam. They have basically shown to be entirely without vision.

[Anomalocaris]

The problem with Star Trek is its overwhelming reliance on self reference. Self reference unfortunately Simultaneously constricts the storyline and destroys believe ability of any prequel set 200 years before anything else in the imaginary timeline. To really work, Enterprise needed to essentially avoid all references to any of the later series except a few events mentioned in later series.

[Drich]

Enterprise was such a giant missed opportunity that it makes me furious. Imagine the greatness that could have ensued if they had really dared to do a proper prequel during the dawn of human interstellar travel, where nothing is taken for granted, and nothing quite works. Imagine no proper automatic translators for everything (or unreliable ones!). No real transporter technology, navigation between the stars that is still an art form and can go wrong, and then do star trek with that. Drop some good writing on top of that, it would have been so epic.

What they did instead is upgrade the tech to basically TNG standards within a few episodes so they could recycle old storylines. And recycle old storylines they did, ad nauseam. They have basically shown to be entirely without vision.

Thank Rick burman for that. He was roddenberry's understudy, and could only produce various shades of vanilla(tng). Don't get me wrong I like vanilla, I have some in my freezer right now.. However it is nice to have strawberry and cholocalate once in a while as well.

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The problem with Star Trek is its overwhelming reliance on self reference. Self reference unfortunately Simultaneously constricts the storyline and destroys believe ability of any prequel set 200 years before anything else in the imaginary timeline. To really work, Enterprise needed to essentially avoid all references to any of the later series except a few events mentioned in later series.

Or at least allow us to see the initial spark that would develop into later series.

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I think enterprise could work if they did a proper non Rick burman reboot like they did with the new movies. Star Trek like Star Wars is too big for one man's vision if indeed it is to encompass a whole galaxy of diversity.

[ignoramus]

Voyager was my favourite, with TNG a close second.
I think I watch about 5 episodes of Enterprise before I stopped watching in disgust.
Pity because I quite liked Bacula from Quantum leap.

[Alex K]

I always have a special place in my heart for TNG because it was the first ST I saw. I don't hate any of the series, including Enterprise, which would have been decent if there hadn't been any expectations. I hold a serious grudge against STX+XI.

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Thank Rick burman for that. He was roddenberry's understudy, and could only produce various shades of vanilla(tng). Don't get me wrong I like vanilla, I have some in my freezer right now.. However it is nice to have strawberry and cholocalate once in a while as well.

Oh, I 've done my homework, I know whom to hate I just don't understand the logic behind TV and Film studios. Why do they on the one hand let people like Rick Berman run such a lacklustre affair when there are so many gifted writers and producers around, and on the other handmicromanage and focus-group things to death. Seems paradoxical to me

[Lemonvariable72]

I hated Enterprise with a passion. And I've watched and been entranced with ST since the first series. TNG was the pinnacle for me, which reached its peak with the Borg and then species 8472 in Voyager.The last movie made it better. I couldn't stand the first series after TNG aired.

voyger was too much. granted I did like some of the characters, The Doctor, 7 of 9, and i did like some of the episodes, but not to crazy about the whole series itself.

I hated the first season of enterpise, but it grew on me. the xyndi epsoides when watched all at once made a good story line, but week to week was too long and drawn out. I also like how they explained the differences in the klingons from TOS to TNG, and tied in the andorieans. I also like the fact that they made the vulcans less of a race of holy monks and more militarized. Over all I think enterpise was an ok series

I grew up on voyager, but now when I watch it I can't help but think kirk would've had them home inside the week. As for enterprise, it got better after the first season, but I would've liked to see the Romulan war that is referenced in TOS. That and I think that from a writing perspective they should have had more of humanity that doesn't really have it figured out yet, with more of hard trailblazing people staking out the frontier. Not politically correct people but rather people looking to escape authority or seeking adventure. Honestly enterprise should have look to history of to see the frontiers people of past time and drawn from how they lived, instead of 22nd century tng wannabe like we got.
Honestly ds9 was the best in my opinion, as Ronald Moore is a amazing writer and pairing him with actors like Avery Brooks and Michael Dorn is simply awesome. Its because of that I think ds9 has so much more color then VOY. I can not help but love Dukat as the fallen hero of his people descending into madness or Dumarr as the great dictator ascending to power only to find he is nothing more then a figure head. Not to mention the bravery and very human rebellion of Jake with the quiet cunning and resourcefulness of Sisko. Perhaps what makes DS9 best is the flawed hero of Sisko who shows a very negative characteristic in his anger, combined with the positives that Dukat shows in the love of his daughter and his people. unfortunately Voyager can not even come close to touching that.

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I always have a special place in my heart for TNG because it was the first ST I saw. I don't hate any of the series, including Enterprise, which would have been decent if there hadn't been any expectations. I hold a serious grudge against STX+XI.

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Thank Rick burman for that. He was roddenberry's understudy, and could only produce various shades of vanilla(tng). Don't get me wrong I like vanilla, I have some in my freezer right now.. However it is nice to have strawberry and cholocalate once in a while as well.

Oh, I 've done my homework, I know whom to hate I just don't understand the logic behind TV and Film studios. Why do they on the one hand let people like Rick Berman run such a lacklustre affair when there are so many gifted writers and producers around, and on the other handmicromanage and focus-group things to death. Seems paradoxical to me

Unfortunately for roddenberry he was always hit or miss. Hence some episodes of TOS are nothing short of amazing like, when they square off agianst the romulans or when they first meet kahn. Others are so terrible you leave it thinking WTF DID I JUST WATCH!

[Drich]

I hate to be the one to say it, but I did just go though the entire Star Trek collection from the orginal pilot to the last into darkness movie. (Over the course of about a year)

And out of it I found my self not liking Avery brooks. I never really liked ds9 as much as the rest of the ship based series (because how can you have a Star Trek without the trek?) but more so the actor himself. He was wayyyy to intense, and stage actor-ie for me. Which work great when he embraced the emissary role.. Everytime there way an emotional scene he reminded my of a cross between a black William shatter be- cause of the stop-- and pause for------ dramatic effect acting style, and the sheer over volume emotion I am reminded of some of the David Koresh/Waco Tx, sermons that were released. I think jordie laforge or Worf would have made a better commander of that station.

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Also what happened to the Andorrans? They were in the orginal series, but none of the others outside of enterprise.

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That said my favorite epsoide of all time was a ds9 epsoide. It was when Sysco,Dax bashire and smilie go back and serve on the orginal enterprise with Kirk.