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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 4:59 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Christian Wrote: Yes, and that in no way binds me from following the OT to the letter. As a good Christian and a good human being, it's no crime to make use of the good things and discard the bad.
Please let us know what method you are using in order to determine which are the things and which are the bad.
Why do so many 'good Christians' come to different conclusions about which are the bad things that can be discarded, and which are the good things should be followed?
How do you know that some of the things you are discarding are not some of the things that are needed to get you into heaven?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:01 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 4:51 pm)Beccs Wrote: Didn't Jesus say that he had come to fulfil the law, not to change it?
Therefore, why would you abandon the OT selectively or at all?
Because Paul gave them license to wipe their asses with Jesus' (and all Jews') holy scripture. If some part of the OT is congenial to them, they'll embrace it. As for the rest, they either disregard it or pay it lip service, which only goes to show that they don't understand the first fucking thing about the man they claim to worship and adore.
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Christian, your religion is just as bad as Islam. The followers of your religion however, are not. I wouldn't ever attempt to tally up all the bad things in the bible and the koran and compare the totals, but i'm pretty sure that they are both equally full of death and torture.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:03 pm
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(October 23, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Christian Wrote: Try again. I already answered that a few posts back in this thread.
Yeah, with the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. That would be a logic FAIL.
How do you know those killers were not instructed by god to do so?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:07 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 5:01 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 4:51 pm)Beccs Wrote: Didn't Jesus say that he had come to fulfil the law, not to change it?
Therefore, why would you abandon the OT selectively or at all?
Because Paul gave them license to wipe their asses with Jesus' (and all Jews') holy scripture. If some part of the OT is congenial to them, they'll embrace it. As for the rest, they either disregard it or pay it lip service, which only goes to show that they don't understand the first fucking thing about the man they claim to worship and adore.
Precisely: Selecting the parts they think should apply to them and ignoring the rest. It's like the ones who quote Leviticus against marriage equality but ignore the rest because it's inconvenient for them.
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:08 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Christian Wrote: Try again. I already answered that a few posts back in this thread.
Yeah, with the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. That would be a logic FAIL.
How do you know those killers were not instructed by god to do so?
God would not advocate killing.
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:09 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 5:08 pm)Christian Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yeah, with the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. That would be a logic FAIL.
How do you know those killers were not instructed by god to do so?
God would not advocate killing.
Except for all the parts when it supposedly DID!
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:11 pm
Baaaaaaahahahaha oh fuck me.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:11 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 5:09 pm)Beccs Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 5:08 pm)Christian Wrote: God would not advocate killing.
Except for all the parts when it supposedly DID!
Yeah, but those bitches had it coming . . . 
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
October 23, 2014 at 5:12 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 5:09 pm)Beccs Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 5:08 pm)Christian Wrote: God would not advocate killing.
Except for all the parts when it supposedly DID!
Jesus never killed anyone.
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