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#71
RE: If
November 19, 2014 at 5:28 pm
(November 19, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(November 19, 2014 at 3:49 pm)Beccs Wrote: Damn, Cthulhu.

"Taking soul" does not mean "pinching her arse!"
Yeah, really. It's a few steps past that.

He really is the source of all evil. (and a guy!)

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RE: If
November 19, 2014 at 5:32 pm
(November 19, 2014 at 5:28 pm)Beccs Wrote: He really is the source of all evil. (and a guy!)

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From Monstropedia:

Quote: Cthulhu's gender is never defined and is probably an absurd definition to give to "outre" creatures such as the Great Old Ones

Read more: http://www.monstropedia.org/Cthulhu#ixzz3JYJqfj6D
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RE: If
November 19, 2014 at 5:45 pm
(November 19, 2014 at 5:32 pm)abaris Wrote:
(November 19, 2014 at 5:28 pm)Beccs Wrote: He really is the source of all evil. (and a guy!)

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From Monstropedia:

Quote: Cthulhu's gender is never defined and is probably an absurd definition to give to "outre" creatures such as the Great Old Ones

Read more: http://www.monstropedia.org/Cthulhu#ixzz3JYJqfj6D

Misinformation spread by the forces of evil.

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RE: If
November 19, 2014 at 6:01 pm
(November 19, 2014 at 9:09 am)Riketto Wrote: I am curious to know what you would say to this HYPOTHETICAL God in this HYPOTHETICAL case.
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RE: If
November 21, 2014 at 9:06 am
(November 19, 2014 at 10:30 am)Alex K Wrote:
(November 19, 2014 at 10:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I do not assert but i do believe that God can communicate with you whether you have a body or nor provided that your consciousness is developed enough.

So then I don't understand. If it wasn't developed enough during my lifetime, it will still not be developed when I'm dead and I won't hear God, so your scenario doesn't work?


Interesting question.
According to most of the NDE experiences. the system doesn't work as you think.
They reckon that even a rapist or a murderer can see God but according to their developed or undeveloped consciousness and good or bad karma (actions and reaction) they are close or far from God.
This imply that if you are close you can experience more bliss and happness while if you are far you experience a terrible feeling as you can not enjoy this bliss.
This can be hell but this hell is nowhere to a permanent hell as in the next reincarnation you can rehabilitate yourself.
Religious followers on the other end believe in permanent hell as no rehabilitation is possible.
Hindus and Buddhist however believe in reincarnation and rehabilitation.
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RE: If
November 21, 2014 at 9:25 am
(November 19, 2014 at 9:09 am)Riketto Wrote: Ok. this is just an hypothetical question so keep cool and calm.
No need to get excited.
WHAT WOULD YOU THINK OR SAY IF YOU DIE AND FIND OUT THAT YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL AND GOD IS THERE?

Your body is left behind to rot but your body is not you anymore.
You are there facing God.
1) Would you say.........oh, well there was no evidence that you existed that is why i never believe that you exist.
2) I was wrong in not looking at all options.
3) I never thought that by refusing to consider that you exist i could not expect that you manifest in my consciousness.

If none of these options come closer to your thinking then please express your thought.
I am curious to know what you would say to this HYPOTHETICAL God in this HYPOTHETICAL case.
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RE: If
November 21, 2014 at 9:25 am
Riketto,

your argument has a subtle flaw: NDEs have absolutely nothing to do with seeing God or any such nonsense. They are the fabrications of oxygen-starved brains.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: If
November 21, 2014 at 9:27 am
Additionally, NDE's have produced 'visions' of just about every god. There's no way you can look at a Christian NDE or a Muslim NDE and say they're wrong, while using Hindu/Buddhist NDE's as evidence or suggestive of your god.
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RE: If
November 21, 2014 at 9:35 am
(November 19, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(November 19, 2014 at 9:09 am)Riketto Wrote: I am curious to know what you would say to this HYPOTHETICAL God in this HYPOTHETICAL case.
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God could say.........not really Park.
To understand me you first got to understand yourself.
Physically speaking you carry the seeds to procreate and continue the human race.
I also put a seed in you so you can let it grow and realize who you really are.
The problem however is that this seed need a proper ground to sprout and acquire the appearance of the original father.
It all boil down to desire to know the real self.
Many people expect the MANNA from falling from the sky.
It never happen.
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RE: If
November 21, 2014 at 9:42 am
(November 21, 2014 at 9:35 am)Riketto Wrote: I also put a seed in you so you can let it grow and realize who you really are.

OK, that's a scary image.
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