[split] Radiometric Dating

[Creatard]

By my name you probably know my position, but I have a little bit of a beef with radio metric dating because of its presuppositions. Basically there are three:
1) you have to assume the absence of the daughter isotope at the start of process.
2) you have to assume constant decay rates. We have only been able to observe their rates for the past 100-150 years. Before that we can reasonably guess the affects of the earth's magnetic field and other factors would have on decay, but that is all they will ever be: an educated guess.
3) no parent or daughter isotopes were lost or added during the process.
I'm going to leave it at that and see where the replies take it. Hope to here from you guys soon.

[Alex K]

And they shall know thee by thy necroposts...

[Creatard]

And they shall know thee by thy necroposts...

Your argument please

[Jackalope]

Holy necropost.

These "problems" are very overblown and inaccurately characterized by creationists.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-...l#creadate

[Exian]

Christian sock?

[Creatard]

Holy necropost.

These "problems" are very overblown and inaccurately characterized by creationists.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-...l#creadate

Can't say I'm surprised you used that site. It deals with problems 2 and 3, but you still need to answer for one.
It does not address the effects of earth's magnetic field, only pressure and temperature.
Its contention with constant decay rates was met with isochrones, which assumes a known amount of sister isotopes. Isochrones were applied to the K-Ar dating during the tests for lava flows at Mt. Ngauruhoe, an initial failure because flows known to be 50 years old were given ages over 270,000 years old. When isochrones were applied, the difference was made even worse(Pb-Pb, also tested on site with isochrones, gave an estimate that multiplied the real age by a factor of 70,000,000.) From observable instances, not the computer generated ones, isochrones have not shown to increase reliability. For more see http://www.trueorigin.org/dating.asp#Possible changes in the decay rate

[Minimalist]

By my name you probably know my position

Indeed we do.

[Creatard]

By my name you probably know my position

Indeed we do.

I was led to believe people would debate civilly on this site. If you don't have anything to add to the argument, kindly get off. Its funny you guys insist we are the intolerant and narrow minded ones.

[Minimalist]

I think you're just a sock for another recently banned jesus freak. You get no benefit of the doubt.

[Creatard]

I think you're just a sock for another recently banned jesus freak. You get no benefit of the doubt.

I can say that I have never been on this site until I was directed to it yesterday. But obviously that won't convince you. If you would like you can report me to the site to have my IP checked. I just want a debate where I can get real world experience. I'm getting ready to leave high school to pursue pastoral ministries, and I want more real world experience than what high school students can offer. If you can't answer just don't take part in it. I just want to know the arguments against my position.