we don't send ourselves to hell

[abaris]

One day boys you will find out exactly who Satan has fooled and on that day you'll be crying like babies unless you decide to choose Jesus.

GC

And yet there are thousands upon thousands of christian denomination to choose your personal tale of salvation from.

Then there are all the others: The World Factbook gives the population as 7,095,217,980 (July 2013 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.39% (of which Roman Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.74%, Hindu 13.8%, Buddhist 6.77%, Sikh 0.35%, Jewish 0.22%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 10.95%, non-religious 9.66%, atheists 2.01%.

See, christian of any brand, is only a third of the world's population. And your protestant cult makes only for a slice of a pathetic 6,15 %.

[IATIA]

Also, people have provided you with scripture references and you ignore them but continue asking for verses even though you don't provide any to back up your believes.

That is because it is difficult to rebut 'facts' and the bible is full of so many contradicting 'facts', it is easer to cherry pick and ignore.

[The Valkyrie]

@ Nope and dyresand, I don't have to prove anything to you, that's not what God called me to do, if you believe it is then show me in the scriptures. It doesn't effect my salvation one way or the other if you don't believe, I made my choice through the free will God gave me and all of mankind. One day boys you will find out exactly who Satan has fooled and on that day you'll be crying like babies unless you decide to choose Jesus.

GC

In the end, threats from your imaginary friend are all that you have.

So, your god called on you to come to this website and spout bullshit and threats in the hopes that the atheists will believe it?

No, that only works with believers and the weak minded. Atheists are neither.

Moving on.

[Godscreated]

@ Nope and dyresand, I don't have to prove anything to you, that's not what God called me to do, if you believe it is then show me in the scriptures. It doesn't effect my salvation one way or the other if you don't believe, I made my choice through the free will God gave me and all of mankind. One day boys you will find out exactly who Satan has fooled and on that day you'll be crying like babies unless you decide to choose Jesus.

GC

Of course, you don't have to prove anything to anyone; however, if you voluntarily go onto an atheist board, it will be expected that you provide some proof for your statements or people will mock or ignore you. The same thing would occur if I went on a Christian board and refused to provide any logic about there being no god.

Also, people have provided you with scripture references and you ignore them but continue asking for verses even though you don't provide any to back up your believes.

Fine, put those scriptures back up and I'll address them.

GC

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One day boys you will find out exactly who Satan has fooled and on that day you'll be crying like babies unless you decide to choose Jesus.

GC

And yet there are thousands upon thousands of christian denomination to choose your personal tale of salvation from.

Then there are all the others: The World Factbook gives the population as 7,095,217,980 (July 2013 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.39% (of which Roman Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.74%, Hindu 13.8%, Buddhist 6.77%, Sikh 0.35%, Jewish 0.22%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 10.95%, non-religious 9.66%, atheists 2.01%.

See, christian of any brand, is only a third of the world's population. And your protestant cult makes only for a slice of a pathetic 6,15 %.

Then how much more pathetic is the 2.01% that atheist comprise of the total. Seems to me that with that pitiful number you would question your position. Salvation comes through one thing in all Christian denominations, the belief in Christ Jesus and what He did for us all.

GC

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@ Nope and dyresand, I don't have to prove anything to you, that's not what God called me to do, if you believe it is then show me in the scriptures. It doesn't effect my salvation one way or the other if you don't believe, I made my choice through the free will God gave me and all of mankind. One day boys you will find out exactly who Satan has fooled and on that day you'll be crying like babies unless you decide to choose Jesus.

GC

In the end, threats from your imaginary friend are all that you have.

So, your god called on you to come to this website and spout bullshit and threats in the hopes that the atheists will believe it?

No, that only works with believers and the weak minded. Atheists are neither.

Moving on.

I have never threatened anyone, I state what the Bible says, if you consider that a threat then you are the weak minded and a bit frightened in my opinion. I will say this again I never come here to convert anyone, it's your choice for your life and you will do with it as you may. So you can accept why I'm here and stop telling me why I'm here.

GC

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Also, people have provided you with scripture references and you ignore them but continue asking for verses even though you don't provide any to back up your believes.

That is because it is difficult to rebut 'facts' and the bible is full of so many contradicting 'facts', it is easer to cherry pick and ignore.

Exactly how can facts be contradictory as you stated above,see the underlined.

GC

[dyresand]

GC your going to use scripture to help you scriptures are nothing special. just and fyi.

[The Valkyrie]

"I'm not threatening you. I'm just repeating the threats of my book of fables uses to keep its followers under control"

Corrected that for you, GC.

I don't have any fear of your imaginary god, your imaginary devil, your imaginary hell, or your book of fables. The same way as I don't have fear of Loki, Set, or Quetzacoatl.

Reality is better than fantasy, GC.

RJA

[Neo-Scholastic]

No, there are messianic prophecies with no contingencies attached. Some regard the crucifixion. By your reasoning, god could not have made such predictions, as he didn't know that people, being free moral agents, would kill Jesus.

First off, the messianic prophecies aren’t that specific, not even Isaiah 53. If they had been definitive then the very scripturally literate apostles would have recognized the danger to Jesus long before it happened. Second, a person can know a general outcome going into a situation without knowing the specifics. If Jesus hadn’t been crucified, he’d a-been hung or beheaded. If Pilate hadn’t sentenced Jesus, someone else would have. If one searched hard enough someone could probably find a prophecy for each of those eventualities.
In my opinion, the root of the problem is that people look back into the words of the prophets for historical references when they should be trying to understand the timeless symbolic significance. The words of the prophets speak to our current situations and the human condition in general.

Peter's denial wasn't certain when Jesus predicted it? Are you seriously saying that?

Yes. But remember as you near a decision point the scope of potential choices gets reduced.

… I notice plenty of action by people and by Satan and his crew. Is it your position that those are just guesses at this point, and god doesn't really know what will happen?

Again, someone can know what will happen even if they do not know how. Almost certainly, my wife and I will eat dinner tonight. What we actually eat remains to be decided.

[Godscreated]

"I'm not threatening you. I'm just repeating the threats of my book of fables uses to keep its followers under control"

Corrected that for you, GC.

You didn't correct anything the Bible doesn't threaten, it gives promises, there's a huge difference, you should realize that.

I don't have any fear of your imaginary god, your imaginary devil, your imaginary hell, or your book of fables. The same way as I don't have fear of Loki, Set, or Quetzacoatl.

Reality is better than fantasy, GC.

RJA

Scripture states that only the foolish do not fear God. I know reality is better than fantasy, that's why I live in reality.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Scripture states that only the foolish do not fear God. I know reality is better than fantasy, that's why I live in reality.

Says the guy who is in awe of a magical being that he's never seen and can't evidence but which he believes controls every aspect of our universe and his life.

Whatever works for you, bud.

[FatAndFaithless]

Why would you love someone you're commanded to fear?