Posts: 3676
Threads: 354
Joined: April 12, 2015
Reputation:
42
RE: Mythology 101
October 5, 2015 at 6:59 pm
(February 20, 2015 at 11:08 am)pocaracas Wrote: I once saw someone suggesting that the story of Jesus is somewhat representative of the night sky and its constellations.
So I set out to see what the sky looked like in the year 1... here: http://neave.com/planetarium/
And what do you know?....
![[Image: NightSky_1Nov01_zpsacpvkmri.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i191.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz226%2Fpocaracas%2FNightSky_1Nov01_zpsacpvkmri.png)
The big yellow thing is the sun rising in the Libra constellation
Right at the left of the sun, there's a lone bluish thing: that's Neptune (the guys at this time didn't know there was a Neptune out there...).
Then you have an upward trail of planets aiming at Virgo's... errr... skirt:
- Mercury
- Venus
- Mars (the red one)
- Jupiter
33 years later (not counting 7 leap days):
![[Image: NightSky_23Nov33_zpswdkvnhrr.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i191.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz226%2Fpocaracas%2FNightSky_23Nov33_zpswdkvnhrr.png)
It repeats... well, minus Jupiter... Joseph?
Is it significant?
Probably.
Many mythologies may have come about by making up stories about the figures seen in the stars... that's why heaven is said to be up there. I've always wondered how astrologers handled the discovery of planets the ancient world hadn't known about. It would have been terrible if they'd incorporated Pluto, only to find out 50 years later that it's not a real planet. I still wonder what the Plutonians have to say about that.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
Posts: 3101
Threads: 10
Joined: September 7, 2015
Reputation:
49
RE: Mythology 101
October 5, 2015 at 7:46 pm
(October 5, 2015 at 6:59 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I've always wondered how astrologers handled the discovery of planets the ancient world hadn't known about. It would have been terrible if they'd incorporated Pluto, only to find out 50 years later that it's not a real planet. I still wonder what the Plutonians have to say about that.
![[Image: post-65414-neil-tyson-pluto-middle-finger-x8tO.jpeg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img.pandawhale.com%2Fpost-65414-neil-tyson-pluto-middle-finger-x8tO.jpeg)
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
Posts: 5599
Threads: 37
Joined: July 13, 2015
Reputation:
61
RE: Mythology 101
October 5, 2015 at 8:00 pm
(This post was last modified: October 5, 2015 at 8:29 pm by Athene.)
A little Zeitgeist-y (they may be from the film) and conspiratorial, but you might find these three short videos kind of interesting. You can jump to the astrology at about 6:30 in Part 1. Part 2 and 3 continue to demonstrate the possible role of astrology in religious mythology.
Posts: 69246
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
258
RE: Mythology 101
October 5, 2015 at 9:34 pm
(This post was last modified: October 5, 2015 at 9:34 pm by Minimalist.)
Zeitgeist was poor scholarship...as is most of the shit put forward by Acharya S.
However, the similarities do exist if you don't try to push things to absurd levels.
Quote:To say Christianity was a mystery religion is not to say that Christianity
is exactly like any other mystery religion, any more than any mystery
religion was 'exactly like' any other. Often when scholars deny that
Christianity was a mystery religion, they rea1 1y mean it wasn't just one of
the already-existing mystery religions superficially overhauled with Jewish
concepts. Christianity wasn't 'Osiris Cult 2.0'. Which is certainly true. But
that's all that anyone's evidence can prove. If instead we define a mystery
religion as any Hellenistic cult in which individual salvation was procured
by a ritual initiation into a set of 'mysteries', the knowledge of which and
participation in which were key to ensuring a blessed eternal life, then
Christianity was demonstrably a mystery religion beyond any doubt.
I f we then expand that definition to include a set of specific feat ures
held in common by all other mystery religions of the early Roman era, then
Christianity becomes even more demonstrably a mystery religion, so much so,
in fact, that it's impossible to deny it was deliberately constructed as
such. Even the earliest discernible form of Christianity emulates numerous
cultic features and concepts that were so unique to the Hellenistic mystery
cults that it is statistically beyond any reasonable possibility that they
all found their way into Christianity by mere coincidence. They formed a
coherent, logical and repeatedly replicated system of ideas in every other
mystery cult. It would be irrational to conclude the same wasn't so of Christianity.
Christianity cannot be understood apart from this fact. And any
theory of historicity that fails to account for it cannot be credible.
On the Historicity of Jesus pgs. 96-97
Re-cycled from an earlier discussion.
Posts: 69309
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
161
RE: Mythology 101
October 6, 2015 at 7:42 am
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2015 at 7:42 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 20, 2015 at 12:13 am)Drich Wrote: Passover was is a remembers the worst of the ten plagues, in that if a house hold did not have the fresh blood of a lamb on the door post the oldest son would die.
Likewise if you do not have the blood of Christ/the lamb of God to cover you, you too shall die. Passover "remembers" things that never happened. Likewise, all men die. The substantial number of graves with crosses on them attest to this fact.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 6843
Threads: 0
Joined: February 22, 2014
Reputation:
15
RE: Mythology 101
October 6, 2015 at 11:34 pm
Posts: 107
Threads: 9
Joined: January 11, 2015
Reputation:
10
RE: Mythology 101
October 11, 2015 at 9:42 am
You, not a mythical god, are the author of your book of life, make it one worth reading..and living.
Posts: 1635
Threads: 9
Joined: December 12, 2011
Reputation:
42
RE: Mythology 101
October 11, 2015 at 10:50 am
|
