Christians Unite

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Tubby in your opening statement you said that because a majority of atheists agreee with each other, atheist must therefore be correct. However a majority of people in a room could agree to throw someone out the window, arevthey therefore correct.

People are constantly throwing others out the window. When a person gets convicted of a crime he's thrown out the window. When a spouse divorces the other is thrown out the window. When a person if fired from a job his boss has thrown him out the window. And sometimes it's literal.

[Angrboda]

Interesting. Astonishing how christians can be so comfortable in their dishonesty, I know I wouldn't be. I wonder if similar things go on here between the theists?

I strongly suspect that something similar has occurred among the theists on this forum but they will never admit to it.

I am not a crook.

[abaris]

Chadwooters is Swedenbozenger Okay, that isn't the correct name but he is a Christian who follows the teachings of someone whose name begins with a S and a W

Chad follows Swedenborg. Swedish dude from the 18th century. At least he says so. Doesn't fit the bill though. At least not where it matters, since Swedenborgians are supposed to be open on social issues and science. None of which seems to be what makes Chad tick.

Calvinist and Southern Baptist may be the worst of the crowd. One a prederterminist, the other one as single minded and strict as they come.

[vorlon13]

Southern Baptists may come across as 'strict' but they are just as prone to cherry pick edicts, commandments, strictures, rules, and laws when it comes to items they may find personally inconvenient.

When's the last time a Southern Baptist picketed Red Lobster ???

[dyresand]

You know they could form Chris-Tron but non of them agree with each other and they fight over who gets to be the head.
So its better off that way they stay separated.

[Drich]

I've recently noticed a trend on this forum. On any given thread where a christian feels he/she needs to make a point, very rarely do any of the other theists join in. They tend to let one take the lead and instead concentrate elsewhere.

On the other hand, the atheist crowd mix in most threads with usually the same agreement on points.

I think this is because they can never agree amongst themselves on even simple interpretation of scripture let alone any other tenets of their religion. This is blatantly obvious on the christian forum site that I peer into on occasion - the arguments around the bible there make your eyes water sometimes. And that's a place where atheists are largely refused entry to stir them up. Before I got banned, I asked some questions about Genesis and the arguments amongst themselves were a sight to behold.

I suppose my point is, is it should be obvious then, that simple deductive reasoning would infer that the atheist view (on theological matters at least) is correct just by the fact that it is agreed on by the majority. When GC puts his opinion forward, it's just that - his opinion. I've rarely seen drippy (or prof or the other new theists) come to his defense or vice versa.

The fact that we will never see them unite in their beliefs says it all for me. I'd love to see them come together and argue amongst themselves for once, it would be excellent entertainment. Because, sure as shit, they will never agree with someone elses opinion regardless the topic.

Gc or the proff nor anyone else don't need me to justify what they say. If they feel they need said justification all they need do is cite book Chapter and verse. Why? Because what we teach is unlike your philosophies. In that what we teach is given us by God and not a matter of popular concensus. That is why only one of us need speak God's truth at a time and why so many of you need to oppose it. It is a matter of authority verse popular belief. only one need speak with authority, and it takes many if not all to establish a popular concensus

That said:
To be honest I tend to stay out of their way because I trust and for the most part completely agree with the majority of the theists on this website. We kudo each other and pm each other when we have a question or want to applaude each other. In short we are not here to grade each other's work but to answer your questions and straighten out your confused ideas of Christianity.

Yes we do not always agree but the thing is we don't have to. Because the same grace that is extended to us when we willfully sin is also extended even most so when are doing our best and simply have it wrong.
If God can give us all Grace when we have our theological point confused I feel that I must also extend that courtesy. Now when we have a major disagreement concerning the basics of biblical salvation then it is by scripture that we must go to the offending brother on the side and address the issue there.

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I would have more respect for the theists on this site if they occasionally disagreed with one another. Probably the real reason why they avoid certain topics is because it would hurt their so called witness to us heathens to disagree openly.

Back when I still believed in god, I used to hang out on a forum with posters from a wide range of backgrounds. The topic turned to one in which I just happened to agree with the nonChristians. Another Christian kept hammering away at a point and the other Christians on that forum either quietly left or reiterated his words...except for me. I got a pm from him explaining that I was hurting his witness to the nonChristians and that I should just either be quiet or go along with him. Christians, he wrote, should be united so they can win others to Christ.

the only reason to have a disagreement like this openly is if one does not take direction/respond to the avenue provided by the scripture for conflict resolution found in the bible, on a matter of salvation.

That said I have had several disagreements with believers on the fringes of Biblical Christianity. In the end they point to thier holy book or tradition as the source of their belief, and I state I worship the God of the bible.

Also know we don't have any arrangement to not argue or disagree. Their have been no pm's or master game plans. As the proff said in his post, to be here for as along as some of us has, requires a maturity/ability to not have to be the right center of every discussion.

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"Witness".... heh.

Christianese(the language of Christians) LOL

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Interesting. Astonishing how christians can be so comfortable in their dishonesty, I know I wouldn't be. I wonder if similar things go on here between the theists?

I strongly suspect that something similar has occurred among the theists on this forum but they will never admit to it. Drich, for example, is a Calvinist. Although there might be exceptions, Calvinists tend to be judgemental about who is and who isn't a Christian. He has also said somethings that I know the other theists on this forum probably find bothersome, such as his views on slavery.

Drich is not a Calvinists, although he does agree with the teaching of john Calvin, as he agrees with Wesley, Luther, boothe, and even Joseph Smith..(in very limited instances)

I tend to take and adopt the views of these theologians for one reason. They coinsides with scripture. Where Calvin sides with scripture I side with Calvin. Where Wesley agrees with the bible I agree with Him..

It not hard to determine who is in agreement and who is not. BCV is the key.

[Minimalist]

Fair enough...but how many ways are there to throw someone out a window?

I've got two. Open the window or leave it closed.

[vorlon13]

Huh ?


From cherry picker to Literalist in just a matter of days ?


Praise the LAWD !!

[Thumpalumpacus]

It's funny that they can disagree on the meaning of their god's word and still all get into heaven.

It seems that the only real qualification is to have a broken bullshit detector.

[Pizza]

Chadwooters is Swedenbozenger Okay, that isn't the correct name but he is a Christian who follows the teachings of someone whose name begins with a S and a W

Chad follows Swedenborg. Swedish dude from the 18th century. At least he says so. Doesn't fit the bill though. At least not where it matters, since Swedenborgians are supposed to be open on social issues and science. None of which seems to be what makes Chad tick.

He is also a panentheist, not to be confused with pantheist, meaning he thinks the universe is part of God but God transcends the universe.

I would love to see all Christians here argue over what God is and over dogma. That would be as fun as watching Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Jewish, and apologists from other religions all having a battle royale.