A Si Fi watchmaker.

[Mr.wizard]

Is there a lack of mirrors in your world or something?

When I outlaw Star Trek or burn you at the stake for liking it, then you will have a case, but the fact I keep repeating myself does not make me a fascist. How about you try understanding why nothing should be worshiped instead of acting like a brat?

You do not undertand I say this because I used when I was young have the exact same reaction you are having with me now, I had with other people with other things I was into.

Stop acting like I murdered your family for saying don't worship anything or anyone. It is just a show, get over it.

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Would you like me to behave like you with ABBA? I can do that and show you how silly you are acting.

Ah, now I see what your point is, your problem is with the concept of worship. The whole science fiction thing was a confusing example.

[rexbeccarox]

You really will argue with anyone about anything Brian. Fourteen pages in, and I have no idea what your point is.

Not brain surgery here. Science in a formal lab setting with independent peer review is where knowledge is gained. Getting worked up over any form of entertainment means you are taking yourself way too seriously.

I haven't seen anyone dispute that.

The reactions I see to my OP is the same type of reaction you can see in sports fans who fight in a stadium or at a bar.

I don't see that at all.

And even beyond that. People who go this emotionally far with fiction do not understand that this literally how something goes from myth to a real religion. I am not joking about that. If L Ron Hubbard can market words like "space/time" and create a religion out of it, and Joseph Smith can convince people he has magic golden tablets, don't underestimate someone taking that show so seriously that they turn it into a religion.

So what's your solution?

My only intent of this entire thread is don't treat anything as if it deserves a pedestal. Enjoy it if you like, but don't get so worked up over it to the point you feel like punching someone because they say boo to it. If you are getting that worked up, you are taking the show, and yourself way too seriously.

You're the only one I see in this thread getting worked up... and all over a strawman. You've accused people of saying things they didn't say; you've applied ideas to people in a vacuum. Maybe you should go back and read the entire thread? Maybe you'll see through the eyes of the other people participating in this thread, because you look absolutely nuts here.

[Ravenshire]

You're the only one I see in this thread getting worked up... and all over a strawman. You've accused people of saying things they didn't say; you've applied ideas to people in a vacuum. Maybe you should go back and read the entire thread? Maybe you'll see through the eyes of the other people participating in this thread, because you look absolutely nuts here.

Nah. He won't go back and actually read it. He had no interest in doing so to begin with or he would have seen the number of times we agreed and asked what his solution is.

Back at AF.com, he once argued (using these same tactics) that folding pizza boxes is a marketable skill. I steered clear (for the most part) of that one. Later I dropped the ignore feature on him when he reacted to my wife's bad reaction to our daughter coming out with a ton of assumed negative shit (she's fine now and was fine within 48 hours of it, not that you could tell Brian any different). When I came here and saw his user name, bang, right on ignore. Almost a year later I decided to see what his arguments are like now. Well, he's back on ignore. He argues like a christer. Making baseless assertions and defending straw men to his dying gasp. No need for more of that.

It should tell him something that the only two people I have on ignore are him and Drich.

[Brian37]

You are mistaking persistence for dogmatism. Not sticking anyone in ovens here. No laws are being passed, no one is being forced to be on this website or respond to me. No demands on my part blocking those in this thread who don't agree.

I am trying to explain to you why pedestal thinking is not a good idea. And I am also telling you I used to have the same emotional reaction to others the same way they are reacting to me.

Star Trek like ABBA like sports are entertainment.

And even with religion, you are forgetting what starts out as mere stories get successfully marketed an go from small groups to damaging religions. It does not matter what we are talking about here, the point is don't worship clubs or individuals or politicians or sports stars or rock singers as if they walk on water.

Find me anywhere in this thread or on the internet anywhere I sad "never" for merely saying it's just a show.

"It's just a show" is the same as "It is just a game" when talking about sports. People are getting pissy because I am not treating Star Trek any differently than they would treat ABBA.

[rexbeccarox]

No they're not. The only thing people are getting pissy about is your incessant strawmanning. No one is actually arguing with your bottom line, as far as I can tell. Rather, they're arguing with your dishonest style.

[One Above All]

"It's just a show" is the same as "It is just a game" when talking about sports. People are getting pissy because I am not treating Star Trek any differently than they would treat ABBA.

Never watched Star Trek, never heard ABBA.
...Sorry, I keep forgetting you're not actually listening to others' opinions. Guess I just enjoy poking trolls with a stick.

[LastPoet]

..., never heard ABBA.k.

Now you've done it!

[Ravenshire]

never heard ABBA.

Your world is better for the lack!

[Lemonvariable72]

never heard ABBA.

Your world is better for the lack!

Overrated 70s manufactured music that didn't stand the test of time like many of their contemporaries.

[One Above All]

Your world is better for the lack!

Overrated 70s manufactured music that didn't stand the test of time like many of their contemporaries.

I've heard of ABBA; just not their songs.