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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 21, 2015 at 10:36 pm
(March 21, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: He actually did end up committing suicide later...
You are erroneously attributing his suicide to their relationship.
It is not the fault of the thirty year old man that the thirty two year old woman he just broke up with committed suicide. People who are prone to depression and suicidal thoughts will usually commit the act not through the fault of someone else, but instead the individual's inability to cope with life.
Besides, To make a point to McKinley, Milk took him to the hospital where Milk's ex-lover, Joe Campbell, was himself recuperating from a suicide attempt, after his lover Billy Sipple left him.
Milk actually tried to help the boy with his depression.
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2015 at 12:22 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
(March 21, 2015 at 10:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote: It would seem you guys make exceptions for gays. Why did you decide to equivocate "gays" with pedophilia? [EDITED TO RETRACT A MISINFORMED CONCLUSION]
(March 21, 2015 at 10:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote: If you want to come down on priests fine (and you should), but you should also come down on the gay person for exhibiting the same behavior. and then here, your prejudices leak out again. Pedophilia is a crime regardless of the gender. Why are you implying that sexual orientation matters at all? The priests were gay too, you know? Or at least bisexual. Male priests sexually molesting little boys is just an example of homosexual pedophilia. So what the hell are you talking about? I think everyone here has come down pretty hard on pedophiles, and in the light of who's been doing it the most lately (the Christian priests), the homosexual ones have received plenty of criticism. Does that make you feel better? Weirdo...
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 21, 2015 at 11:40 pm
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(March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: (March 21, 2015 at 10:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote: It would seem you guys make exceptions for gays. Why did you decide to equivocate "gays" with pedophilia?
(March 21, 2015 at 10:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote: If you want to come down on priests fine (and you should), but you should also come down on the gay person for exhibiting the same behavior. and then here, your prejudices leak out again. Pedophilia is a crime regardless of the gender. Why are you implying that sexual orientation matters at all? The priests were gay too, you know? Or at least bisexual. Male priests sexually molesting little boys is just an example of homosexual pedophilia. So what the hell are you talking about? I think everyone *here has come down pretty hard on pedophiles, and in the light of who's been doing it the most lately (the Christian priests), the homosexual ones have received plenty of criticism. Does that make you feel better? Weirdo...
Fixed that for you.
But seriously Huggy what the actual fuck is wrong with you... you dense mother fucker.
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 21, 2015 at 11:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2015 at 12:04 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
Thanks! Ever since I switched from the iPhone5 to the 6, my one-hand typing has been off. I have yet to properly calibrate my thumb to the exact place it needs to be on the keyboard. Autocorrect has been taking over, but all too often it's the wrong correction!
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 22, 2015 at 12:07 am
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(March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Why did you decide to equivocate "gays" with pedophilia? Where am I making that equivocation? I'm referencing a conversation that actually happened. The fact that he happened to be Gay was why people were defending the behavior, you can't tell me anyone of you would approve of an adult straight male having sex with a 16 year old girl, yet the gay guy gets a pass.
As evidenced in this video where a gay guy feels up Scarlett Johanson and it's seen as humorous.
I don't need to tell you the repercussions if that had been a straight guy.
(March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: and then here, your prejudices leak out again. Pedophilia is a crime regardless of the gender. Why are you implying that sexual orientation matters at all?
Again not saying orientation matters, I'm saying the situation is treated differently based on orientation.
(March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: The priests were gay too, you know? Or at least bisexual. Male priests sexually molesting little boys is just an example of homosexual pedophilia. So what the hell are you talking about? I think everyone hear has come down pretty hard on pedophiles, and in the light of who's been doing it the most lately (the Christian priests), the homosexual ones have received plenty of criticism. Does that make you feel better? Weirdo... You didn't see the responses that implied as long as it's legal it's ok?
besides...
(March 21, 2015 at 9:09 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: The only qualifier that determines if you are a "gay man" is that you are a man who is attracted to other adult men. If you are not attracted to other adult men, then you are not a gay man regardless of whether you identify as one or not. That's not "no true scotsman" mentality before anyone says it is, that's how it actually is.
(March 21, 2015 at 11:40 pm)dyresand Wrote: But seriously Huggy what the actual fuck is wrong with you... you dense mother fucker.
I know you intended this thread to be all about bashing "Christians", sorry to rain on your parade bruh. (pun not intended)
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 22, 2015 at 12:14 am
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//cant figure out really how to hide tag this part.
(March 22, 2015 at 12:07 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Why did you decide to equivocate "gays" with pedophilia? Where am I making that equivocation? I'm referencing a conversation that actually happened. The fact that he happened to be Gay was why people were defending the behavior, you can't tell me anyone of you would approve of an adult straight male having sex with a 16 year old girl, yet the gay guy gets a pass.
As evidenced in this video where a gay guy feels up Scarlett Johanson and it's seen as humorous.
I don't need to tell you the repercussions if that had been a straight guy.
(March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: and then here, your prejudices leak out again. Pedophilia is a crime regardless of the gender. Why are you implying that sexual orientation matters at all?
Again not saying orientation matters, I'm saying the situation is treated differently based on orientation.
(March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: The priests were gay too, you know? Or at least bisexual. Male priests sexually molesting little boys is just an example of homosexual pedophilia. So what the hell are you talking about? I think everyone hear has come down pretty hard on pedophiles, and in the light of who's been doing it the most lately (the Christian priests), the homosexual ones have received plenty of criticism. Does that make you feel better? Weirdo... You didn't see the responses that implied as long as it's legal it's ok?
besides...
(March 21, 2015 at 9:09 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: The only qualifier that determines if you are a "gay man" is that you are a man who is attracted to other adult men. If you are not attracted to other adult men, then you are not a gay man regardless of whether you identify as one or not. That's not "no true scotsman" mentality before anyone says it is, that's how it actually is.
(March 21, 2015 at 11:40 pm)dyresand Wrote: But seriously Huggy what the actual fuck is wrong with you... you dense mother fucker.
I know you intended this thread to be all about bashing "Christians", sorry to rain on your parade bruh. [/hide]
Get over yourself you are just a religious zealous bigot who only want;s to derail this thread because you really have no good argument against what i posted. You need to checked yourself because you already god wrecked when people pointed out your behavior. So in further notice if you have nothing RELEVANT to add to this conversation please by all means see your way OUT, because you are doing nothing more than changing the topic on hand.
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 22, 2015 at 12:18 am
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2015 at 12:18 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
(March 22, 2015 at 12:07 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Why did you decide to equivocate "gays" with pedophilia? Where am I making that equivocation? I'm referencing a conversation that actually happened. My apologies, you didn't equivocate being gay with being a pedophile. I misread the post.
(March 22, 2015 at 12:07 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Again not saying orientation matters, I'm saying the situation is treated differently based on orientation. That's not true. The priests were gay. Huggie, I'm going to assume you are a straight man, as am I. Do you have sexual urges toward any age of male? That's a rhetorical question...
Now, do we criticize the priests? You can answer that one.
(March 22, 2015 at 12:07 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You didn't see the responses that implied as long as it's legal it's ok?
Huggy, tell me what you think the morally right age is, and then justify it. It doesn't tell you that in the bible, you'll have to use your own words. The bible will give you a few examples of when it's okay to stone them though...Don't use those references (just a tip)
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 22, 2015 at 12:37 am
(March 22, 2015 at 12:18 am)The Reality Salesman Wrote: That's not true. The priests were gay. Huggie. Not necessarily. The data shows that most androphilic pedophiles who aren't exclusively attracted to boys actually identify as heterosexual, in that they are not attracted to adult males, but rather adult females as a secondary (or rarely primary) attraction. The study uses plethysmograph (penile engorgement gauge) to determine attraction levels among those tested.
The point is what Nuclear Jaguar was saying earlier. The distinction needs to be made. Androphilic pedophiles, hebephiles, and ephebophiles are not gay men any more that gynephilic pedophiles, hebephiles, and ephebophiles are straight men.
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RE: Pedophilia in Christianity
March 22, 2015 at 12:41 am
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(March 22, 2015 at 12:37 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (March 22, 2015 at 12:18 am)The Reality Salesman Wrote: That's not true. The priests were gay. Huggie. Not necessarily. The data shows that most androphilic pedophiles who aren't exclusively attracted to boys actually identify as heterosexual, in that they are not attracted to adult males, but rather adult females as a secondary (or rarely primary) attraction. The study uses plethysmograph (penile engorgement gauge) to determine attraction levels among those tested.
The point is what Nuclear Jaguar was saying earlier. The distinction needs to be made. Androphilic pedophiles, hebephiles, and ephebophiles are not gay men any more that gynephilic pedophiles, hebephiles, and ephebophiles are straight men.
Well shit, I guess you learn something new every day. That all sounds way too complicated. The point is, it's wrong to fuck kids! The orientation shouldn't weigh into this discussion at all.
...at least not THIS discussion. It doesn't matter. That's all I was getting at.
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