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On the Success of Scientific Theories
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RE: On the Success of Scientific Theories
(March 25, 2015 at 5:09 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote:
(March 25, 2015 at 12:02 pm)JuliaL Wrote: 3) If past experience (potentially non-existent if history is bunk) is consistent with a proposition, that proposition is true.

I'll go out on a limb and choose 3) today.
Science is successful because science has been successful.
I think that is the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy if you aren't careful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_shar...er_fallacy
What if victory conditions morph along with science? We probe a little farther and that gives direction for further probing. If we knew right now where it all was going to end up, wouldn't we be done?
I try to enjoy the journey and not worry too much about the destination.
Quote:Maybe you need to say that the theory has been successful - not true , because it successfully predicted new experimental results in the past? Then you apply inductive reasoning to say that this theory will probably be successful in the future too?
This is what I was trying to say is the limit to our knowledge of truth.

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(March 25, 2015 at 1:23 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Perhaps this points to a deeper problem in that the binary values true and false tend to gut anything we can say about actual theories because accuracy of predictions (demonstration) is a gradated property, not a binary one. Perhaps that points to the No Miracles argument being phrased in terms of "more successful theories.... than less successful theories," and then the litmus of success is demonstrability as Ben suggests.
That sounds like a more practical approach IMO. Smile
This too is in line with my private definition of truth: A proposition is true in direct proportion to which it serves to accurately predict future events. I only use true/false as a binary value in boolean operations. There are confidence intervals everywhere, including in parameters used for calculation in nominally binary chips & neuron depolarization potentials.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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#42
RE: On the Success of Scientific Theories
(March 25, 2015 at 6:50 pm)JuliaL Wrote: This too is in line with my private definition of truth: A proposition is true in direct proportion to which it serves to accurately predict future events.
So in your philosophy, there cannot possibly be true statements about singular events in the past?
Quote: I only use true/false as a binary value in boolean operations. There are confidence intervals everywhere, including in parameters used for calculation in nominally binary chips & neuron depolarization potentials.

I strongly agree
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#43
RE: On the Success of Scientific Theories
(March 25, 2015 at 1:23 pm)rasetsu Wrote: I notice that you haven't defined what it means for a theory to be false.

The *definition* of a theory should give you the answer Smile

A scientific theory is one that can be falsified, amongst other things.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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#44
RE: On the Success of Scientific Theories
Falsifiable in principle or in practice?
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
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RE: On the Success of Scientific Theories
(March 26, 2015 at 9:28 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: Falsifiable in principle or in practice?

I'd say in principle, where the hypothetical situation involves an observable entity that can be (i) seen not just a one-off event and (ii) that doesn't depend on your expectations i.e. it's an entity that is robust/objective etc.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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