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My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 1:15 am
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2015 at 1:27 am by Brometheus.)
Coming from where I have, I've got a few questions as I try to sort out my world-view. Google hasn't been any real help, maybe someone here could help me out, or at least point me to resources.
1.) Were the ancient Jewish people actually slaves in Egypt?
2.) Did the ancient Jewish people actually carry out the genocides described in the Bible?
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 1:36 am
I don't know much about Jewish history, but good luck in your detox 
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 2:01 am
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My first thoughts based on what I've heard is no / not nearly to the extent described in the bible. I remember people saying the whole massive group of Jews living in the desert for however long is entirely unsupported.
If I think of any sources to back that, I'll get back to you. That is just from memory.
On a hilarious side note though, the bible openly admits god interferes with the free will of the Pharaoh in charge of the slaves (in the story of course.)
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 3:07 am
(April 1, 2015 at 1:15 am)Brometheus Wrote: Coming from where I have, I've got a few questions as I try to sort out my world-view. Google hasn't been any real help, maybe someone here could help me out, or at least point me to resources.
1.) Were the ancient Jewish people actually slaves in Egypt?
2.) Did the ancient Jewish people actually carry out the genocides described in the Bible?
No and no. The most detailed records we have frim bronze-early iron is the Egyptians, and no where do they record any sort of en masse enslavement, and they don't mention a Jewish culture till the time of around the 8th-7th century. Also the archeological evidence does not support a genocide in the region of Isreal at that time and nor does it support the notion of mass migrating people from that time.
What it does suggest is that Jewish culture descended from cultures around it, not becoming truly monotheistic until after the BabylonIan exile.
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 3:18 am
Bam! Pretend Jews to go with pinata boy.
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 3:43 am
No and no.
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 3:46 am
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A good rule of thumb to everyone is that if the bible says something, you can safely ignore it. Real history books will tell you what you need to know.
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 4:19 am
Wasn't there this awkward scene not too long ago where an israeli official was going on about how his people built the pyramids, and the egyptian's reaction was like, erm, no you didn't?!
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 4:30 am
Moses: 'Pharoah - let my people go!'
Pharoah: 'Erm....which people, exactly?'
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RE: My Detoxing Thread
April 1, 2015 at 7:28 am
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Wait! Does that mean moses didn't part the sea with his magic stick?
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