Atheism Ireland denounces hateful bigot PZ Myers

[MJ the Skeptical]

Insults are a reaction of feeble minded towards someone who confronts their self-righteousness. Can you give me a reason why should waste one more minute of my precious life listening to your little rant?

I had serious inquiries with you, for you to straw man my position like this is just sad really.

[Dystopia]

Uh, wait I thought feminism was gender inclusive? what do you mean the men don't matter? If men are oppressed there, shouldn't they be helped along with the women there?

Simple question.

It's not gender based violence. Men are being killed by other men in wars, because they were sent there. That's not gender based oppression, it's a product of unfortunate circumstances. Gender based oppression is women suffering because they are women - A woman suffering domestic violence because the man sees her as weak and dependant on him because she feels social obliged to take care of children is abusing her using gender based oppression. It's really easy to distinguish.

Men dying in war is a product of wars. It's not a product of sexism. The high rates of domestic violence in some countries are a product of sexism and sexist notions

[MJ the Skeptical]

@Godslayer
What counts as oppression of males?

Let me ask you a question first, does male oppression happen at all? yes or no?

[Dystopia]

I asked a simple question. I'm still in doubt if you are just a small troll or actually believe anything you're saying. Why should I waste my precious time listening to your rhetoric full of fallacies? I actually explained how things work and how women fighting for issues they find meaningful is not bothering you or other men. You seem to be bothered at that. Can you explain what you mean by middle east? Which country? Where's the data?

[MJ the Skeptical]

Uh, wait I thought feminism was gender inclusive? what do you mean the men don't matter? If men are oppressed there, shouldn't they be helped along with the women there?
Simple question.

It's not gender based violence. Men are being killed by other men in wars, because they were sent there. That's not gender based oppression, it's a product of unfortunate circumstances. Gender based oppression is women suffering because they are women - A woman suffering domestic violence because the man sees her as weak and dependant on him because she feels social obliged to take care of children is abusing her using gender based oppression. It's really easy to distinguish.
Men dying in war is a product of wars. It's not a product of sexism. The high rates of domestic violence in some countries are a product of sexism and sexist notions

Men can suffer because they are men. For example circumcision of men is a form of sexual repression, is it not?

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I asked a simple question. I'm still in doubt if you are just a small troll or actually believe anything you're saying. Why should I waste my precious time listening to your rhetoric full of fallacies? I actually explained how things work and how women fighting for issues they find meaningful is not bothering you or other men. You seem to be bothered at that. Can you explain what you mean by middle east? Which country? Where's the data?

Believe I'm a troll or not, I've had the better argument, so it's all good, friend. Claiming fallacies without listing one, thanks for your expert analysis guy.

[Dystopia]

@Godslayer
What counts as oppression of males?

Let me ask you a question first, do male oppression happen at all? yes or no?

Oppression of males happens the same way blacks oppress whites. If you consider that oppression so be it. I only use the word oppression when one groups has some kind of privileged position in society over the other. Males have problems, no one actually denies it, but men's problems derive from the same root of women's ones - Gender roles!

On circumcision I totally agree, but so what? That doesn't change anything. What makes you think feminists support such a terrible practice?

[MJ the Skeptical]

Let me ask you a question first, do male oppression happen at all? yes or no?

Oppression of males happens the same way blacks oppress whites. If you consider that oppression so be it. I only use the word oppression when one groups has some kind of privileged position in society over the other. Males have problems, no one actually denies it, but men's problems derive from the same root of women's ones - Gender roles!
On circumcision I totally agree, but so what? That doesn't change anything. What makes you think feminists support such a terrible practice?

Whoa, that doesn't answer my inquiry, can males be oppressed or not?

Also, where are the feminists condemning male circumcision? all they seem to care about is women's issues, or the small cases of female circumcision even though male circumcision is far more prevalent.

And speaking from personal experience, it has hindered my sex life, being cut.

[Dystopia]

Define oppression. Is it just one individual male being oppressed? Is it a group of men? How large? And how can males be oppressed if they control most of (1) The media (2) Politics (3) Military (4) Means of production. Do you realize how baseless that is? It's like saying blacks are oppressing whites in America and Europe. They aren't. Women can't oppress men because they don't have military numbers, need to rely on men on politics because they are a minority, are dependent on male bosses because they own a minority of means of production, and are dependent on male controlled media. So how can they oppress men if they don't have power for it? You can't be oppressed if you have power. It's like saying heterosexuals are being oppressed by gays

[Cephus]

Thunderf00t and TheAmazingAtheist were banned because they have youtube videos well known for anti-feminism and men's rights rants (TheAmazingAtheist frequently chatted on men's rights on reddit and tried to trigger adverse reactions on a rape victim) - Since Freethoughtblogs (which I don't read very much) seems to be all for equality, it seems more than obvious that these two people should be banned from the group because they conflict with their interests

I can't remember but didn't Thunderfoot get kicked off freethought blogs because he disagree with their sexual harassment rules and then he became disruptive?

He got kicked off FtB within a day or two, even though they specifically told him that he could post anything he wanted.  However, the rest of them wanted an echo chamber and he was disrupting their hugbox.  That's why he had to go.  PZ and his brand of "atheists" cannot handle anyone who doesn't toe the party line.

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I don't even use social networks, buddy, the internet is a terrible example of what goes on in the world because you get to see the extreme side of all spectrums. You shouldn't trust the internet's people to dictate how you see a movement.

There is no movement outside of the Internet, on the Atheism+ forums, when they were trying to figure out what "activism" they were going to engage in, their ultimate choice was to sit online and bitch about things.  That's all there is.

[Pizza]

The irony is neither can Thunderfoot.

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If Thunderfoot didn't like their policies on comments then he shouldn't have joined them in the first place. It's their blog and their rules.