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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm
(May 17, 2015 at 10:14 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: You're a Brummie too Napo? I thought you were American haha
I understood as well i know most dialects of english i catch on quickly.
I surprised my canadian friend he was like wait you understood that and i was like yep.
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 10:40 pm
(May 17, 2015 at 10:35 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I think they alienate themselves personally
There's also a sizeable black (of Caribbran origin so Christian) population in Birmingham, and although they tend to be poorer on average, they've had less problem integrating in. Any Muslims I know who are secular and make an effort get places as well. One of my best friends growing up was Muslim, from an Iranian family who left Iran after the Shah was overthrown, they're very secular and have never struggled for anything.
I've only met very few Muslims, but never one that was secular. Do they abide by any of the Pillars?
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 10:40 pm
(May 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm)dyresand Wrote: I understood as well i know most dialects of english i catch on quickly.
I surprised my canadian friend he was like wait you understood that and i was like yep.
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 10:44 pm
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(May 17, 2015 at 10:40 pm)dahrling Wrote: (May 17, 2015 at 10:35 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I think they alienate themselves personally
There's also a sizeable black (of Caribbran origin so Christian) population in Birmingham, and although they tend to be poorer on average, they've had less problem integrating in. Any Muslims I know who are secular and make an effort get places as well. One of my best friends growing up was Muslim, from an Iranian family who left Iran after the Shah was overthrown, they're very secular and have never struggled for anything.
I've only met very few Muslims, but never one that was secular. Do they abide by any of the Pillars? I don't know much about the pillars, but if you mean my Iranian associates I'm not sure. They do practice, but it's not like they follow all the rules strictly. They're very western. My friend from school is a girl and she's never covered her head apart from when she goes to mosque. That's how Iran was before the Shah was overthrown though, he tried very hard to secularise and westernise Iran, so the loyalists who left Iran after he was overthrown tend to be like that.
I find it's (usually) the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities that are more conservative. They are the ones who are more likely to have the defensive "I'm offended!" complex when you call them out for their bullshit that is, in itself, offensive.
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 10:47 pm
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(May 17, 2015 at 10:44 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: (May 17, 2015 at 10:40 pm)dahrling Wrote: I've only met very few Muslims, but never one that was secular. Do they abide by any of the Pillars? I don't know much about the pillars, but if you mean my Iranian associates I'm not sure. They do practice, but it's not like they follow all the rules strictly. They're very western. My friend from school is a girl and she's never covered her head apart from when she goes to mosque. That's how Iran was before the Shah was overthrown though, he tried very hard to secularise and westernise Iran.
I find it's (usually) the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities that are more conservative. They are the ones who are more likely to have the defensive "I'm offended!" complex when you call them out for their bullshit that is, in itself, offensive.
How did such these two communities come to settle in the U.K?
I mean, are they mostly in the country illegally, are they mostly asylum seekers, or are they legal immigrants who are skilled in something?
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 10:51 pm
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Depends, some legal, some illegal
The UK gets a lot of immigrants from ex-British Empire colonies. That's why we have such large South Asian and Afro-Caribbean minorities (and relatively few Latinos). Some immigrants came after WW2 looking for work, and could get in easily because the British actually needed to bring in workers from the Empire after the war. That's how my Maltese family ended up here, contract work.
Although I think with the more recent waves of immigration it's because of conflict.
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 11:03 pm
(May 17, 2015 at 10:32 pm)dahrling Wrote: ...
(May 17, 2015 at 10:29 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: You could try asking in Area 69, but even there it might be going too far. I think you are probably too young and innocent for these sorts of things.
Yes, the famous Area 69. I really don't think I want to join it, to be completely honest.
There are just so many weird references to it, I think I would end up traumatized  but who knows?
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 11:05 pm
Don't be a prude, just get nude
Some of the selfies in Area 69 though, ooh chile some people on this forum have it all going on let's just say that
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 11:08 pm
And that is the start of what it is to be a Brummie....
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RE: Ask a Brummie
May 17, 2015 at 11:11 pm
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I'm starting to think we all have an inner slut, just waiting to come out...
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