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Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
#11
RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
Do you/did you "keep Kosher"?
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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#12
RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
Why are you bored, and is there anything I can do to help?
How will we know, when the morning comes, we are still human? - 2D

Don't worry, my friend.  If this be the end, then so shall it be.
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#13
RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
(May 18, 2015 at 9:34 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Not at all. The people who who like to dominate me are the sort who enjoy the challenge.

I mostly get irritated that people don't understand these concepts:

"Submissive" in a BDSM sense doesn't necessarily mean you're a mouse of a person. Many people in high-stress or powerful positions enjoy submitting.

"Dominant" doesn't mean you're an overly-testosterone driven grunt.

Having a forthright nature or ready opinion about various things consistently gets people saying "YOU MUST BE A DOMINATRIX." WTF?


Bacon is the reason I'm an atheist.
 I really love hearing from former Jews. You are only the second. Penn has a story about a former Jew eating a bacon Cheeseburger in his book, after he took this fan out to dinner. I have another former Jew as a friend who lives in Cyprus. She is as blunt as I am and rips on Israel too. I don't care which religion you leave, Hindu or Buddhist or Islam or Christianity or Jewish, it is always nice to see people snap out of their delusions.
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#14
RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
(May 18, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Saxmoof Wrote: Does fifty shades of grey annoy you as much as me?
You have no fucking idea.

(May 18, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Saxmoof Wrote: It's clearly written by someone who has no knowledge or interest in BDSM and aimed at people in that same boat. It gives the impression that Dominants are dominant because they were abused as children and Submissives are submissive because they have tragically low self-esteem - this is the way a vanilla person would try to rationalise BDSM, by thinking to themselves, "what would make me want to hurt someone/be hurt by someone" when really there is no rational explanation - it's just an innate desire we have. It pissed me off so much when there was all this media hype around it and you had all these vanilla people passing off their ignorant opinions on fluffy day time talk shows, they could have just asked a dominant or submissive onto their show - we're real people, not just a porn category! It wouldn't have been so hard to find one of us
Basically all of this. I could make a literary critique of it, but basically this review says everything I ever could want to say about it, WITH GIFS, and bonus, even if you don't care about the topic it's funny as fuck. https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/34...lse&page=1

(May 18, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Saxmoof Wrote: Does this annoy you as much as me (as it does me I should say, obviously i'm not annoying at all)? People seem to think dominance/submission is something you do rather than something you are - I had submissive thoughts and feelings towards girls and teachers in school before I was in double digits, before I knew what submission was - I didn't get bored with normal sex and then graduate to "kinky sex" whatever that means. Submission is just the natural way i'm attracted to women, I couldn't look at a woman i'm attracted to and not want to place them on a pedestal above me and devote myself to them even if I tried really, really hard

That is all

I don't have quite that exact feeling as a submissive - it would take longer than I have this hour to describe, though I will attempt to later - but basically my annoyance is that 1) people don't have a nuanced view about anything, much less kink, and 2) they have all the wrong conceptions when they have any at all.

(May 18, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Alex K Wrote: As someone calling herself a former Jew, how do you feel about many many "atheist Jews" still calling themselves Jews for cultural / identity reasons? Isn't there this joke, "what do you call a Jew who doesn't believe in God?"
Would you like it if they dropped the label to give atheism more of a voice, or do you think the cultural identity trumps that?

No, I don't mind much, because Judaism was insular for so long that there very much is a culture attached to it. I can elaborate on this, if you wish.

I'm not like those piss-ants who bitch about Tyson not ID'ing as an atheist.

(May 18, 2015 at 3:10 pm)c172 Wrote: Do you/did you "keep Kosher"?

Nope. We didn't eat pork, but we didn't separate everything. I started eating bacon because...bacon. Then I moved down to a BBQ pork state.

(May 18, 2015 at 3:35 pm)TRJF Wrote: Why are you bored, and is there anything I can do to help?

My work is shite. This kind of stuff is cool. I've found that when you open up about stuff, other people are willing to open up as well, and I like learning about people.
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RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
(May 18, 2015 at 5:01 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(May 18, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Alex K Wrote: As someone calling herself a former Jew, how do you feel about many many  "atheist Jews"  still calling themselves Jews for cultural / identity reasons? Isn't there this joke, "what do you call a Jew who doesn't believe in God?"
Would you like it if they dropped the label to give atheism more of a voice, or do you think the cultural identity trumps that?

No, I don't mind much, because Judaism was insular for so long that there very much is a culture attached to it. I can elaborate on this, if you wish.
Yeah, if you feel like it
Quote:I'm not like those piss-ants who bitch about Tyson not ID'ing as an atheist.

You know... a few years ago I would have bitched about it, but now I don't feel like it any more.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#16
RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
Every self respecting conspiracy theorist knows the Jews are the real illuminati who control everyone in power.
The NWO is coming along to plan ...
Do you wish wish to plead the 5th?

Underneath that nice facade you portray, there is a timeshifting, dimension drifting lizard!
Say Hi to the Queen and Obama for me....

Nurse, Nurse! NURSE!!!
Worship
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#17
RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
Quote:Basically all of this. I could make a literary critique of it, but basically this review says everything I ever could want to say about it, WITH GIFS, and bonus, even if you don't care about the topic it's funny as fuck. https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/340987215?book_show_action=false&page=1

That was great Big Grin , genuinely depressing that those books are so popular

Quote:I don't have quite that exact feeling as a submissive - it would take longer than I have this hour to describe, though I will attempt to later

Sounds good
“The larger the group, the more toxic, the more of your beauty as an individual you have to surrender for the sake of group thought. And when you suspend your individual beauty you also give up a lot of your humanity. You will do things in the name of a group that you would never do on your own. Injuring, hurting, killing, drinking are all part of it, because you've lost your identity, because you now owe your allegiance to this thing that's bigger than you are and that controls you.”  - George Carlin
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#18
RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
Jewish culture:

Many people who lose their faith as Jews find that their parents don't care so much so long as they continue to follow Jewish customs (be it kosher, circumcision, holidays, what have you). Jews have a much more personal relationship with god, because they don't imagine intermediaries. There's just..god. And everyone can pray to him, and there's no third party to go through. So you do you as far as god goes, but to be a good person requires you follow all these rules...many of which are set up by rabbinical texts rather than out of the Old Testament. These rules and opinions sink into you in a way that god belief doesn't.

For instance, I still have trouble with ways of handling charity, because Jews are taught that there are good, better, and best practices, and the 'in your face' sort of charity that some of my friends do (handing stuff out directly to homeless people) is EXTREMELY uncomfortable to me when I was taught that the best way to give charity was for you to never see/know the person you give to and they never see/know you. Better for you is to give things to a shelter director, whose job or volunteer work it is to help these people and get them back on their feet. I've never taken a tax write off for my contributions either. Charity in Hebrew is called tzedakah - "obligation". It is your obligation to help your community. Somehow it doesn't feel like charity or my obligation to help others when I'm getting a 'reward' for doing so. I'm sure many other Jews don't have a problem with this in our current tax structure - that's probably just a foible of mine.

Beyond that, what makes a culture are your values and traditions. Jews value education in a way I've never seen Christian cultures of any sort reciprocate. Whether it's the deep secular education of the less-religious, or the deep knowledge into Torah and rabbinical writings of the Orthodox, it doesn't matter. There's a reason those stereotypes about doctors or lawyers exist. Jews want to breed smart and savvy. And traditions? Look, Jewish holidays by and large are SO MUCH MORE FUCKING FUN than Christian ones. Fun enough to keep celebrating them despite your own lack of religiosity - maybe more so because of it. Passover? The Exodus story is shite. I don't believe in god. STILL FUN. Purim? A huge costume party with huge cookies shaped like triangular hats. Chanukah? Look, if I can't convince you why drinking and frying excessive amounts of potatoes is awesome in the middle of winter, you're hopeless. Especially when you stop to play with fire and exchange gifts. Sukkot? Basically thanksgiving, but outside in a hut covered with greenery, and citrus fruits, and earlier in the fall so it's not shit-grey and terrible outside.



Submission: in brief, I'm the sort of sub that causes trouble. I'm not obedient, and I act up on purpose. The men I submit to aren't the sort that play up to the overly-muscular Dom stereotype. They're not dressed in leather and barking orders and flailing whips. They're all wickedly intelligent, and they like being sassed by a smart woman. I don't worship. I yield...eventually. I make them work for breaking me down as much as they make me work to endure their untender mercies and for my own release. None of my Doms come to me because they want someone who will kneel for them automatically. They Dom me because I won't give in until they've given 110% of their clever cruelty, just like they won't give me my release until I've yielded to their satisfaction.

The ebb and flow of power is so difficult to explain to people who stand outside of it - EL James could never comprehend it.

I've been attracted to guys before in vaguer, more vanilla ways, but never with lasting permanence. It's definitely the Doms that keep my attention through the years. I don't know how to explain the need to be mastered by someone who can prove himself stronger than me - the release is part and parcel with finally surrendering after the guy has proved himself worthy. I want a guy who will stand up to me. It's that friction that always drives me to be better, to be smarter, to be stronger. I guess 'serving' them in ways is related to that, once they prove worth serving.

I probably could have expanded on the culture shit, but I'm drinking, and mah puppeh is distracting me.

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RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
Have you accidentally ate bacon? or bacon?
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RE: Ask a bored, formerly Jewish, overly opinionated submissive
Who eats bacon accidentally?
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