My Dream Of 1960

[Edwardo Piet]

You can be a witness in favor or against in the near future. If it doesn't happen...then you were right![

Sorry but this makes me laugh because stuff like this never happens now does it? Miracles don't exist. If a God and/or miracles existed that would be the biggest miracle of all. And miracles are against natural law and about as impossible as you can get.
So I doubt it will happen.
Oh and btw, considering there is about 6 billion people on earth, don't you think other people have dreams that seem to come true? I'm guessing that everyone does. I'm sure I remember having a few when I was younger. Can't remember what they are though because I forget them because they're insignificant. I remember my more totally insane dreams.
Besides a lot of your dream doesn't seem to be true at all does it? Jesus didn't hasn't returned has he?
And you say time will tell. But as far as we know time goes on forever. So how can time tell if while we're all alive he never comes? He could come after we die or after that or in 100 billion years time.
OR the extremely more likely thing, he could NEVER come. Because miracles just don't REALLY exist now do they? There has NEVER ever really been any evidence of any, has there? They don't happen in the sense that gravity doesn't suddenly "forget" to work.
As Leonardo said: 'Nature never breaks her own laws'.

[ricardocoav]

My Dream Of 1960 – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_New_York_air_disaster

On the night of Dec. 15, 1960, I had this dream, which came true and which today 48 years later, still has me thinking of what it meant. I have not been able to decipher why I had this dream, and at which time did not seem to serve any real purpose to anyone, including myself. The dream goes like this: I had a dream that I was rising towards heaven and I saw what appeared to be the figure of Jesus Christ, blessing the U.S.A. I saw what seemed to be the map of the world ***(like the World Map in Google Earth) and we were rising exactly over the Gulf of Mexico and I could see the U.S.A. completely (the four corners). I saw the State of Florida and towards the northeast, New York City. As Jesus was blessing the U.S.A. and as soon as he finished blessing it (like when you make the sign of the cross) I saw two planes that were flying over New York City, collide. I saw a flash and then they fell to the ground. As soon as I saw this I descended to the area of the collision, which seemed to me to be Brooklyn, New York. When I got to the ground, I saw people lying on the ground that was filled with snow. They were bleeding and moaning. As I tried to move towards them to help them I bumped into a huge glass wall that prevented me from helping them. At that moment I felt completely helpless and very saddened that I could not help anyone and the dream ended there.

The next day, Dec. 16, 1960 I woke up at around 5:00 a.m; took a bath and left for school. I arrived at my school, Central Commercial High School at around 6:40 a.m. Classes started at 7:00 a.m. At Around 12:30 p.m. a teacher was talking to another teacher about a plane crash in the Brooklyn area of New York that somebody had told her about, that had occurred that morning. A classmate told me: “Did you hear that?” and I said yes and I told him that I had had a dream of two planes crashing over Brooklyn last night and he said, “maybe that’s the crash you dreamed about!”. He went over to the teachers and told them what I had said and one of the teachers asked me about my dream and I said yes and she said: “I can’t believe you had this dream, because you look so calm” and she told the other teacher about my dream and she was astonished and then everybody in school came over to me to ask me about my dream. I didn’t verify anything about the crash and at 1:00 p.m. I took the shuttle train and crossed to the other side of Manhattan to go to my job at Nu-Dent Porcelain Studios and worked until 11:00 p.m. I arrived at my house just before midnight and my mother asked me if I knew about a plane accident and I said yes. But didn’t give it much thought.

I felt kind of silly every time somebody asked me about my dream. I didn’t know all the facts about the accident and so I didn’t talk much about it. I didn’t pay too much attention about it either and when I got to work they were talking about the accident also and still it didn’t get to me until Saturday morning when I saw it in the newspapers. On Saturday, Dec. 17, 1960 (my birthday) I got up around 6:00 a.m. and quickly went to the store to buy some bread for my mother and to my surprise I saw a newspaper heading in big Red letters that read that two planes had crashed over Brooklyn and I told the lady at the store that I had dreamed of that accident on Thursday night and she said that that was a revelation. On Saturday I finally told my mother about the dream I had and she was upset and asked me why I hadn’t told her about the dream. I told her I had forgotten about it until I saw it in the newspapers that Saturday morning. Then she told all the neighbors and they all came to me to ask me about my dream. I was somewhat of a loner at the time, just had a girlfriend and we went to church and the movies and that was it. When we got to church she told everybody about the dream I had and they all came to me to ask. I was a very timid person and felt bad about so many people around me and then I decided not to talk about my dream ever again.

In my dream of Dec. 15, 1960 I could not help anyone because of a great glass wall that prevented me from helping others. Maybe at that time I was not ready spiritually and that is why I could not help anyone in my dream. But now, 48 years later, I feel I can try to help all humanity after what I have read about the Garabandal, Spain events (Visions) in 1961, of the apparition of the Virgin Mary and the “Great Miracle” that is to occur someday soon and especially when these events indicate where the “miracle” will take place and that all “eyes will see” it and there is also a name of a person that is to be cured of his blindness after 61 years. His name is Joey Lomangino, of Brooklyn, New York who had an accident in 1947 and has been blind ever since. It has just dawned on me now (2008), that finally everything is all coming together, 48 years after my dream of Dec. 15, 1960.

Ricardo Colón-Avilés
Puerto Rico, USA

Email: [email protected]

Ricardocoav, bet you we don't get any great miracles this year, next year or any year!

Only time will tell and it seems it's not too far away. Here is my conclusion to my dream:

My Dear Friends:

Today, 48 years after my dream of the 1960 New York air disaster I have come to a conclusion. Someone asked me how did I know that the planes that had crashed, at least one of them would fall in Brooklyn. In my dream I thought it was Brooklyn. Now comes this man, Joey Lomangino, whom I hadn't heard of in my life until 2008 and he is from Brooklyn and living a few miles from the accident site. I still asked myself: But what has this to do with the Garabandal events? Today I summed it all up and I think I got an answer. Maybe I am wrong, who knows. I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got: Flights 826 + 266 + 134 + 77 + 15= 1318. Joey Lomangino was born in 1930 he is going to be or is 78, but when I got this hit, he was 77. When I checked in Google Earth for Lomangino I got an address of 1318 61st. Street and I said: That's it! The magic number to connect my dream of the air disaster of New York in 1960 to the Garabandal events is 1318. Know you figure that out! The real connection is, that in 1960 I couldn’t help anybody and today in 2008, maybe I could.

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You can be a witness in favor or against in the near future. If it doesn't happen...then you were right![

Sorry but this makes me laugh because stuff like this never happens now does it? Miracles don't exist. If a God and/or miracles existed that would be the biggest miracle of all. And miracles are against natural law and about as impossible as you can get.
So I doubt it will happen.
Oh and btw, considering there is about 6 billion people on earth, don't you think other people have dreams that seem to come true? I'm guessing that everyone does. I'm sure I remember having a few when I was younger. Can't remember what they are though because I forget them because they're insignificant. I remember my more totally insane dreams.
Besides a lot of your dream doesn't seem to be true at all does it? Jesus didn't hasn't returned has he?
And you say time will tell. But as far as we know time goes on forever. So how can time tell if while we're all alive he never comes? He could come after we die or after that or in 100 billion years time.
OR the extremely more likely thing, he could NEVER come. Because miracles just don't REALLY exist now do they? There has NEVER ever really been any evidence of any, has there? They don't happen in the sense that gravity doesn't suddenly "forget" to work.
As Leonardo said: 'Nature never breaks her own laws'.

Yes, but this one has somes names and numbers: Here is my conclusion to my dream:

My Dear Friends:

Today, 48 years after my dream of the 1960 New York air disaster I have come to a conclusion. Someone asked me how did I know that the planes that had crashed, at least one of them would fall in Brooklyn. In my dream I thought it was Brooklyn. Now comes this man, Joey Lomangino, whom I hadn't heard of in my life until 2008 and he is from Brooklyn and living a few miles from the accident site. I still asked myself: But what has this to do with the Garabandal events? Today I summed it all up and I think I got an answer. Maybe I am wrong, who knows. I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got: Flights 826 + 266 + 134 + 77 + 15= 1318. Joey Lomangino was born in 1930 he is going to be or is 78, but when I got this hit, he was 77. When I checked in Google Earth for Lomangino I got an address of 1318 61st. Street and I said: That's it! The magic number to connect my dream of the air disaster of New York in 1960 to the Garabandal events is 1318. Know you figure that out! The real connection is, that in 1960 I couldn’t help anybody and today in 2008, maybe I could.

[Edwardo Piet]

Only time will tell and it seems it's not too far away. Here is my conclusion to my dream:

My Dear Friends:

Today, 48 years after my dream of the 1960 New York air disaster I have come to a conclusion. Someone asked me how did I know that the planes that had crashed, at least one of them would fall in Brooklyn. In my dream I thought it was Brooklyn. Now comes this man, Joey Lomangino, whom I hadn't heard of in my life until 2008 and he is from Brooklyn and living a few miles from the accident site. I still asked myself: But what has this to do with the Garabandal events? Today I summed it all up and I think I got an answer. Maybe I am wrong, who knows. I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got: Flights 826 + 266 + 134 + 77 + 15= 1318. Joey Lomangino was born in 1930 he is going to be or is 78, but when I got this hit, he was 77. When I checked in Google Earth for Lomangino I got an address of 1318 61st. Street and I said: That's it! The magic number to connect my dream of the air disaster of New York in 1960 to the Garabandal events is 1318. Know you figure that out! The real connection is, that in 1960 I couldn’t help anybody and today in 2008, maybe I could.

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You can be a witness in favor or against in the near future. If it doesn't happen...then you were right![

Sorry but this makes me laugh because stuff like this never happens now does it? Miracles don't exist. If a God and/or miracles existed that would be the biggest miracle of all. And miracles are against natural law and about as impossible as you can get.
So I doubt it will happen.
Oh and btw, considering there is about 6 billion people on earth, don't you think other people have dreams that seem to come true? I'm guessing that everyone does. I'm sure I remember having a few when I was younger. Can't remember what they are though because I forget them because they're insignificant. I remember my more totally insane dreams.
Besides a lot of your dream doesn't seem to be true at all does it? Jesus didn't hasn't returned has he?
And you say time will tell. But as far as we know time goes on forever. So how can time tell if while we're all alive he never comes? He could come after we die or after that or in 100 billion years time.
OR the extremely more likely thing, he could NEVER come. Because miracles just don't REALLY exist now do they? There has NEVER ever really been any evidence of any, has there? They don't happen in the sense that gravity doesn't suddenly "forget" to work.
As Leonardo said: 'Nature never breaks her own laws'.

Yes, but this one has somes names and numbers: Here is my conclusion to my dream:

My Dear Friends:

Today, 48 years after my dream of the 1960 New York air disaster I have come to a conclusion. Someone asked me how did I know that the planes that had crashed, at least one of them would fall in Brooklyn. In my dream I thought it was Brooklyn. Now comes this man, Joey Lomangino, whom I hadn't heard of in my life until 2008 and he is from Brooklyn and living a few miles from the accident site. I still asked myself: But what has this to do with the Garabandal events? Today I summed it all up and I think I got an answer. Maybe I am wrong, who knows. I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got: Flights 826 + 266 + 134 + 77 + 15= 1318. Joey Lomangino was born in 1930 he is going to be or is 78, but when I got this hit, he was 77. When I checked in Google Earth for Lomangino I got an address of 1318 61st. Street and I said: That's it! The magic number to connect my dream of the air disaster of New York in 1960 to the Garabandal events is 1318. Know you figure that out! The real connection is, that in 1960 I couldn’t help anybody and today in 2008, maybe I could.

You posted the same thing twice in the post. Ok if it was by accident but it looks totally deliberate. You even paraphrased the beginning of it in order to reply to me with it, within the same post.
And obviously I can't accept this proclaiming of yours as proof.

[Tiberius]

Yes, but this one has somes names and numbers: Here is my conclusion to my dream:

My Dear Friends:

Today, 48 years after my dream of the 1960 New York air disaster I have come to a conclusion. Someone asked me how did I know that the planes that had crashed, at least one of them would fall in Brooklyn. In my dream I thought it was Brooklyn. Now comes this man, Joey Lomangino, whom I hadn't heard of in my life until 2008 and he is from Brooklyn and living a few miles from the accident site. I still asked myself: But what has this to do with the Garabandal events? Today I summed it all up and I think I got an answer. Maybe I am wrong, who knows. I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got: Flights 826 + 266 + 134 + 77 + 15= 1318. Joey Lomangino was born in 1930 he is going to be or is 78, but when I got this hit, he was 77. When I checked in Google Earth for Lomangino I got an address of 1318 61st. Street and I said: That's it! The magic number to connect my dream of the air disaster of New York in 1960 to the Garabandal events is 1318. Know you figure that out! The real connection is, that in 1960 I couldn’t help anybody and today in 2008, maybe I could.

Any more pointless spamming and I will ban you from these forums. You only need to post something once, and you have already looked like a spammer by repeatedly starting these posts in forums across the internet.

Of course, I'm going to be the first of a long line of people to point this out, but:

I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got

Why those numbers? Why not the number of legs of people on the plane? Why not the number of people who had vegetarian meals? Why not the number of eyewitnesses? Why not...etc etc.

Basic probability tells us that if you add different numbers together for a long enough time you will get an answer that appears to "mean" something. It is the same argument used by the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, that the number of days between 9/11 and 7/7 was 911. It means nothing. It is a coincidence. Get over it.

Here is a good example of what I mean:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3320

[Edwardo Piet]

Yes, but this one has somes names and numbers: Here is my conclusion to my dream:

My Dear Friends:

Today, 48 years after my dream of the 1960 New York air disaster I have come to a conclusion. Someone asked me how did I know that the planes that had crashed, at least one of them would fall in Brooklyn. In my dream I thought it was Brooklyn. Now comes this man, Joey Lomangino, whom I hadn't heard of in my life until 2008 and he is from Brooklyn and living a few miles from the accident site. I still asked myself: But what has this to do with the Garabandal events? Today I summed it all up and I think I got an answer. Maybe I am wrong, who knows. I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got: Flights 826 + 266 + 134 + 77 + 15= 1318. Joey Lomangino was born in 1930 he is going to be or is 78, but when I got this hit, he was 77. When I checked in Google Earth for Lomangino I got an address of 1318 61st. Street and I said: That's it! The magic number to connect my dream of the air disaster of New York in 1960 to the Garabandal events is 1318. Know you figure that out! The real connection is, that in 1960 I couldn’t help anybody and today in 2008, maybe I could.

Any more pointless spamming and I will ban you from these forums. You only need to post something once, and you have already looked like a spammer by repeatedly starting these posts in forums across the internet.

Of course, I'm going to be the first of a long line of people to point this out, but:

I summed the planes' flight numbers, total of the deceased, Joey Lomangino's age, and the day of my dream and this is what I got

Why those numbers? Why not the number of legs of people on the plane? Why not the number of people who had vegetarian meals? Why not the number of eyewitnesses? Why not...etc etc.

Basic probability tells us that if you add different numbers together for a long enough time you will get an answer that appears to "mean" something. It is the same argument used by the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, that the number of days between 9/11 and 7/7 was 911. It means nothing. It is a coincidence. Get over it.

Here is a good example of what I mean:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3320

Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. Like I said I think the whole thing is a load of nonsense anyway. I was gonna say something about the numbers but I just said that he's basically just talking random nonsense. There's no evidence in it.
So thanks for pointing out WHY its nonsense. Its a pity he doesn't know already!
I could make anything up any weird idea or have ANY dream full of random nonsense and it would probably have just as much "truth" in it as his dream!

[Kyuuketsuki]

Oh dear, I didn't know about 'spamming' hence my more 'tolerant' reply. . Does this mean he may have just posted this one off 'claim'?

Apparently he's been posting the same crap since back in June 2006 ... has he claimed he was "once an atheist" (yeah right) yet?

Kyu

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Question: How would anyone be able to verify your story? In essence, given that you are advancing a rather incredible tale with what appears to be religious connotations, why should we accept you are telling the truth?

EDIT: OK, So why are you SPAMMING this shit all over the web? You've posted it here too: http://debate.atheist.net/showthread.php...#post30344

Why should you be so bothered by it? It is of things to come and I think that you should give it a chance. You can be a witness in favor or against in the near future. If it doesn't happen...then you were right!

Why am I bothered by your spamming multiple forums? Because that sort of behaviour has been regarded as exceptionally bad since the early days of the internet and indeed back into BBS days (yes I am that old) ... so far I know of at least 5 places you have posted it and it appears you have been posting it since back in June 2006.

Your actual post bothers me only inasmuch as it unmitigated crap IMO.

Kyu

[Tiberius]

Well said Kyu

[ricardocoav]

Question: How would anyone be able to verify your story? In essence, given that you are advancing a rather incredible tale with what appears to be religious connotations, why should we accept you are telling the truth?

EDIT: OK, So why are you SPAMMING this shit all over the web? You've posted it here too: http://debate.atheist.net/showthread.php...#post30344

Kyu

Greetings to all!

I do not call it spamming, I call it preaching the word of God, and if my dream is true, the things I've said in my message will happen. Here is my dream in video: http://youtu.be/QoMXPHCu1Ro

[Minimalist]

Blow jesus out your ass.

[Kayenneh]

Amen, hallelujah, another crazy assed fucktard, move along you insane motherfucker.