There Are Times When

[Minimalist]

I think this country has lost its fucking mind.

And then there are other times when I am certain of it.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/here-are...n-america/

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[VeggieDog]

Don't worry. It will all be straightened out when the politicians hand the country over to ISIS.

[dyresand]

Don't worry.  It will all be straightened out when the politicians hand the country over to ISIS.

It's highly unlikely to happen because you know ISIS is giving us a reason to stay in the middle east. After all we created isis and we can stop the problem fairly easily
but were not doing it now. So yeah in the mean time let G.I. Drone do its job. 

[Anomalocaris]

Not really, we can't stop it very easily because 1. we can neither admit it was our fault, nor 2. stand aside and let it burn itself out without it turning into a tail wagging dog domestic political circus, nor 3. Commit the necessary forces and absorb the necessary costs and casualties, both military and domestic civilian, to really stamp it out.

[dyresand]

Not really, we can't stop it very easily because 1.  we can neither admit it was our fault, nor 2. stand aside and let it burn itself out without it turning into a tail wagging dog domestic political circus, nor 3. Commit the necessary forces and absorb the necessary costs and casualties, both military and domestic civilian, to really stamp it out.

Our allies are doing a pretty shit job now they want to regain the land they lost but more or less things seem bad now maybe just maybe it will burn itself out no matter how much land they loose or gain they are bound to fuck up. 

[Pyrrho]

This is not anything new. America is lunatic asylum run by those who are the most insane. This is why I drink as much as I do.

[Anomalocaris]

Not really, we can't stop it very easily because 1.  we can neither admit it was our fault, nor 2. stand aside and let it burn itself out without it turning into a tail wagging dog domestic political circus, nor 3. Commit the necessary forces and absorb the necessary costs and casualties, both military and domestic civilian, to really stamp it out.

Our allies are doing a pretty shit job now they want to regain the land they lost but more or less things seem bad now maybe just maybe it will burn itself out no matter how much land they loose or gain they are bound to fuck up. 

We are too disfunctional to let it burn out.  We will make a domestic political circus out of it, creating an politically charged atmosphere where it would both politically impossible to be fully disengaged, as well as impossible to commit enough resources in time to make a positive difference.   It would then become like a Vietnam, as we are compelled to submit ourselves to creeping involvement, with drone strikes escalating to special force operations, and special force operations escalate into special force operations where things go wrong and special operatives are killed or capture.   This would then escalate into sustained US air strikes and sustained boots on the ground, all the while committing Not enough force (enough would be about the size of the entire army ground forces) to actually control the situation, but having to navigate, and as always be thorough outmaneuvered in, local political landscape.

In the end, we would be so stuck we would be thankful for any ally that can let us extricate.  That ally would Very likely be Iran.  

I think it is likely that the Sunni Islamic state would be short lived and eventually implode under the pressure of an alliance against it, and Out of the resulting chaos and redrawing of the map in the middleeast Iran would emerge as the regional superpower with post ISIS Iraq effectively its satellite state.     If such an Iran then chose to openly go nuclear there would be nothing we or anyone can do about it at all.   The middleeast would then quickly degenerate into a local nuclear standoff between Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Israel. 

[Minimalist]

[dyresand]

Our allies are doing a pretty shit job now they want to regain the land they lost but more or less things seem bad now maybe just maybe it will burn itself out no matter how much land they loose or gain they are bound to fuck up. 

We are too disfunctional to let it burn out.  We will make a domestic political circus out of it, creating an politically charged atmosphere where it would both politically impossible to be fully disengaged, as well as impossible to commit enough resources in time to make a positive difference.   It would then become like a Vietnam, as we are compelled to submit ourselves to creeping involvement, with drone strikes escalating to special force operations, and special force operations escalate into special force operations where things go wrong and special operatives are killed or capture.   This would then escalate into sustained US air strikes and sustained boots on the ground, all the while committing Not enough force (enough would be about the size of the entire army ground forces) to actually control the situation, but having to navigate, and as always be thorough outmaneuvered in, local political landscape.

In the end, we would be so stuck we would be thankful for any ally that can let us extricate.  That ally would Very likely be Iran.  

I think it is likely that the Sunni Islamic state would be short lived and eventually implode under the pressure of an alliance against it, and Out of the resulting chaos and redrawing of the map in the middleeast Iran would emerge as the regional superpower with post ISIS Iraq effectively its satellite state.     If such an Iran then chose to openly go nuclear there would be nothing we or anyone can do about it at all.   The middleeast would then quickly degenerate into a local nuclear standoff between Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Israel. 

They would effectively destroy the middle east as we know it. This is why really Iran doesn't need a nuclear arsenal if it cannot really deal with the current issues at hand. Problem 1 stop giving religion such power 2 give people the choice weather or not to believe in x y z instead of believe in our shit or die because more or less the laws over there in the middle east really do not belong in this day and age. Problem 3 really just deal with the religious terrorism and extremism because it is a global issue if you have these whack jobs thinking doing these types of acts will please some sort of god is pretty mental.