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God, the author of the biggest holocaust
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God, the author of the biggest holocaust
The 'holocaust of the children', as Greg Paul puts it, dwarfs any human caused holocaust by a wide margin. All of the mass slaughters of the 20th century combined pale by comparison. 

Here are the numbers:

Up to this point, there have been over 100 billion people ever born.

At least half of them have died, and continue to die, before they make it out of childhood. Most estimates say the figure might have been as high as 75% dead children before the advent of agriculture. 

That is 50 billion dead children. 

Over half of that number have died of natural disease.

So, this god created a universe with at least 100 billion galaxies, each with at least 100 billion stars, with an untold number of planets orbiting these stars (2000 extrasolar planets found thus far in our galactic neighborhood alone) only to pick one that is a literally a child killer

"But, but... The Fall of man!" i hear you exclaim. Sorry, but that does not let god off the hook. Being omniscient, he would have known the Earth was going to be a child killer, yet he let it happen anyway, 

"But, but... free will!" I hear you exclaim. Really? What age do children understand the concept of free will? What free will did the 20 billion children have that have died of malaria?

This doesn't even take into consideration, those who die pre-birth. 

Over 50% of all fertilized eggs never make it. They don't implant into the uterus, or they are naturally aborted. 

In the US alone, there are 4 million births a year out of about 8 million conceptions. There are about 1.3 million induced abortions a year, that leaves 2.7 million 'god' induced abortions a year. Figuring that prenatal care is pretty good and infant mortality is fairly low in the US, who knows how many 'god' induced abortions occurring in the rest of the world, where this isn't the case.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
Apparently God is totally responsible for things that are seen as positive, but has a solid alibi for everything else. He must have a really good lawyer. One with horns, maybe.
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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
or Saul Goodman?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
Bbbbbbbut he loves you!!
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#5
RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
"Barry, why are you hurting me? Why do you keep doing these things?"

"Remember that little girl who ate an apple in 1840?"

"No..."

"Well I do!" *Thwack*
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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
(June 3, 2015 at 11:04 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: The 'holocaust of the children', as Greg Paul puts it, dwarfs any human caused holocaust by a wide margin. All of the mass slaughters of the 20th century combined pale by comparison. 

Here are the numbers:

Up to this point, there have been over 100 billion people ever born.

At least half of them have died, and continue to die, before they make it out of childhood. Most estimates say the figure might have been as high as 75% dead children before the advent of agriculture. 

That is 50 billion dead children. 

Over half of that number have died of natural disease.

So, this god created a universe with at least 100 billion galaxies, each with at least 100 billion stars, with an untold number of planets orbiting these stars (2000 extrasolar planets found thus far in our galactic neighborhood alone) only to pick one that is a literally a child killer

"But, but... The Fall of man!" i hear you exclaim. Sorry, but that does not let god off the hook. Being omniscient, he would have known the Earth was going to be a child killer, yet he let it happen anyway, 

"But, but... free will!" I hear you exclaim. Really? What age do children understand the concept of free will? What free will did the 20 billion children have that have died of malaria?

This doesn't even take into consideration, those who die pre-birth. 

Over 50% of all fertilized eggs never make it. They don't implant into the uterus, or they are naturally aborted. 

In the US alone, there are 4 million births a year out of about 8 million conceptions. There are about 1.3 million induced abortions a year, that leaves 2.7 million 'god' induced abortions a year. Figuring that prenatal care is pretty good and infant mortality is fairly low in the US, who knows how many 'god' induced abortions occurring in the rest of the world, where this isn't the case.
obviously stupid because for every one killed more than one has been added.
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity
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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
(June 4, 2015 at 3:46 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Bbbbbbbut he loves you!!

"And he needs MONEY!"
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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
All-great, all-knowing and all-powerful, somehow....just can't handle money!!

gotta love George
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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
But, guys, guys, those are all Old Testament killings which means we no longer need to worry about them...oh wait...crap. Well those heathens deserved it. It's not like we get hurricanes and earthquakes here in the United States where the all the Bible believing Christians live. Oh no, no way. Natural disasters only happen to people that Yaweh wants to punish.

In case you didn't get it I was being sarcastic.

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RE: God, the author of the biggest holocaust
Evil babies. They were evil babies, that he made and then had to kill, so they couldn't grow into evil men that he made.

It's this complete abandonment of all humanity to just say, "Well if god did it, it must be a just thing to do". It's intellectually lazy, dishonest and dangerous.
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