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Large Scale Conditioning
#11
RE: Large Scale Conditioning
America the opposite of nationalism? You're not from around here, are you?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#12
RE: Large Scale Conditioning
(June 4, 2015 at 7:25 pm)Dystopia Wrote: You should read a book on nationalism - If you think teaching a national anthem is indoctrinating nationalism, you have a very wrong liberal idea of what it actually is. If you're talking about America, it seems, in many ways, the opposite of nationalism and past nationalist doctrines because of how high it holds the values of liberalism that are directly incompatible with nationalist principles.
I think America is just better at fascism than the fascists. On the surface, it looks like Americans have a lot of freedom and self-determination. However, I get the sense that when you pull the voting lever, it makes a promising clicking noise but nothing else happens.

The nice thing about freedom of speech is that you get 300 million assholes spouting off opinions about everything, and that makes it even easier for the big boys to hid the truth: that it's a country of meat puppets.
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#13
RE: Large Scale Conditioning
I was just watching an episode of 'Brain Games' last night dealing with this scenario.  They had a bunch of people in an office waiting room and every time a buzzer went off, they stood up for a moment then sat back down.  There was one person in the room who was not privy to the game and after a couple times, she started standing up when the buzzer went off.  Eventually everyone but her was called to their 'appointment' and she was the only one left in the room, still standing up when the buzzer went off.  As new uninformed people came in, they also started standing when the buzzer went off.  We are hard-wired for 'monkey see, monkey do', basically the "pack animal' instinct.

This is taken advantage of in politics and advertising, which is why we have such a poor representation of the people and such poor products that make money.  'Cabbage patch dolls' anyone?  How about the 'Pet Rock'?
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Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
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