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Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 10:19 am)Saerules Wrote:
Shinylight Wrote:To be human is to be free, it is to be able to express oneself through the arts, through the public arena, through science and mathematics etc...
Weird... here i thought that was to be an unrestricted person. A human is just any species belonging to the genus Homos so far as I can tell...

I am not saying they lose the right to call themselves part of the human species, I am saying they lose some of the fundamental freedoms that constitute a fulfilled human life.
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Quote:We use these things as a voice, slaves do not have the right to express themselves through these media, through their voice, that is why I said they were not human.
Not possessing the "right" does not necessarily mean one cannot. They are plenty human, they are even people... they are just restricted people :S

If you are oppressed through slavery then you cannot do those things, you may be killed otherwise, slaves are not autonomous, once again, I am not saying they are not biologically human and people is basically another word for human.

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Quote:We may easily be able to function as a hive but we do not, because we are not a hive animal, we are human.
The implementation of churches are some similar facilities can often reflect 'hive (or 'herd') behavior' as one might expect from a collective consciousness?

That is through choice, an example of personal freedom.
"God is dead" - Friedrich Nietzsche

"Faith is what you have in things that DON'T exist. - Homer J. Simpson
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 9:07 am)leo-rcc Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 8:47 am)Eilonnwy Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: Adrian is right, we should protect the right of Free Speech.

....But I said the same thing too, before Adrian. Sad

Yeah but you're a woman. [Image: sofa.gif]
besides I already gave kudos for that

And you're not going to be a man for much longer. [Image: 575.png]
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
I am not arguing the right to free speech when I said I would shove those signs where the sun don't shine. I think it is hypocritical of any church organization claiming to be representatives of Christ to go around spewing that trash at the most inappropriate of times. Even the fictional JC had compassion for the sinners and in that fiction taught that his followers should do the same. I feel that what Rev. Phelps does is not just wrong but morally wrong.

I'm all for posting videos and doing news conferences where you can bad mouth every group that opposes you known to man. But showing up at a mans funeral when people are at their most vulnerable and some are a little unstable to protest and bad mouth someone who for good or for bad gave the ultimate sacrifice; his life, is sort of like biting the hand that feeds you in my opinion. If it wasn't for those same soldiers who fight for those freedoms we take for granted Rev. Phelps would most likely not even have any right to spew the trash he does without spending some quality time in prison getting ass raped by convicts.
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 10:34 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: And you're not going to be a man for much longer. [Image: 575.png]

Panic

Don't Eilon! Even I wouldn't! Any time I've said something like that I was joking! Truce Please don't hurt anyone! Truce
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 10:34 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: And you're not going to be a man for much longer. [Image: 575.png]

Hotlink fail is fail. Cool Shades
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 10:55 am)leo-rcc Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 10:34 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: And you're not going to be a man for much longer. [Image: 575.png]

Hotlink fail is fail. Cool Shades

But what of when she fixes it...? What evil thing will we see then...? 0.o I'd prepare for the worst, leo. Yes... that is correct: she will force a banana into your mouth, and force you to eat it! Thus disarming her!
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 13, 2010 at 8:51 pm)chatpilot Wrote: I don't think a mans funeral is the appropriate place to spew that trash. Going to a soldiers funeral and saying things like god hates soldiers etc. is just wrong on so many levels. They could at least wait till the dad got home and camp out on his lawn or something, even that is wrong in my view. Personally, if I was mourning someone at a funeral and Fred Phelps and his gang made an appearance I would shove those signs up their holy asses.



You are right, CP, but the first amendment wouldn't mean much if the only speech that was protected was "Hooray for America."

They are sick fucks but the principle of free speech is worth far more than them.
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 11:20 am)Minimalist Wrote: They are sick fucks but the principle of free speech is worth far more than them.

QFT
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
Seems they took the emoticon off the site. Sorry guys. It was Pyramid Head slashing a bloody knife.
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
Humm I think if i lived neer fred everytime he picketed somthing id pull up and blast GWAR and other heavy metaltill his ears Bled.... and if anyone listens to Gwar they know there is alot of jesus slamming in thier songs Smile
Did I make a good point? thumbs up Smile I cant help it I'm a Kudos whore. P.S. Jesus is a MYTH.
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