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Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
Personally I think there should be some sort of mental health legislation that should pick up people like this because they are clearly ill and in need of treatment.
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 7:53 am)Saerules Wrote: One hardly loses their voice because of some light government interference in their lives.
That depends on the type of interference a small government chooses to instigate. You can have a small government that still enforces censorship.
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: Adrian is right, we should protect the right of Free Speech.

....But I said the same thing too, before Adrian. Sad
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 8:47 am)Eilonnwy Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: Adrian is right, we should protect the right of Free Speech.

....But I said the same thing too, before Adrian. Sad

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besides I already gave kudos for that
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
It says guest on the main page and unregistered here Dodgy
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 8:04 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 7:53 am)Saerules Wrote: One hardly loses their voice because of some light government interference in their lives.
That depends on the type of interference a small government chooses to instigate. You can have a small government that still enforces censorship.

And is it not a form of censorship to regulate speech to a certain area (or away from an area)?
(April 14, 2010 at 8:47 am)Eilonnwy Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: Adrian is right, we should protect the right of Free Speech.

....But I said the same thing too, before Adrian. Sad

Yes you did Smile
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 7:53 am)Saerules Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: We lose Free Speech, we lose our Humanity.

Human slaves aren't... human...? Humans have throughout history had areas lacking in the 'freeness' o their speech... are you telling me they weren't humans?

I'm not saying they weren't human at all, they had their rights infringed in many horrible ways, they were still human but they lost some of the parts that made them human, namely their 'voice'.

They were oppressed and had some of the Freedoms we take for granted taken away, in my opinion they lost their humanity and became nothing more than Androids but they were still biologically human.
(April 14, 2010 at 8:47 am)Eilonnwy Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: Adrian is right, we should protect the right of Free Speech.

....But I said the same thing too, before Adrian. Sad

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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 9:33 am)Shinylight Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 7:53 am)Saerules Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: We lose Free Speech, we lose our Humanity.

Human slaves aren't... human...? Humans have throughout history had areas lacking in the 'freeness' o their speech... are you telling me they weren't humans?

I'm not saying they weren't human at all, they had their rights infringed in many horrible ways, they were still human but they lost some of the parts that made them human, namely their 'voice'.

They were oppressed and had some of the Freedoms we take for granted taken away, in my opinion they lost their humanity and became nothing more than Androids but they were still biologically human.

I don't think they lost anything that makes them human. Having a voice is a 'bonus' as I see it... a vital bonus for individuality... but a bonus nonetheless for humanity. We could just as easily function as a 'hive'.

Why should there be any more required than one be human to be a part of humanity?
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
(April 14, 2010 at 9:47 am)Saerules Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 9:33 am)Shinylight Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 7:53 am)Saerules Wrote:
(April 14, 2010 at 5:03 am)Shinylight Wrote: We lose Free Speech, we lose our Humanity.

Human slaves aren't... human...? Humans have throughout history had areas lacking in the 'freeness' o their speech... are you telling me they weren't humans?

I'm not saying they weren't human at all, they had their rights infringed in many horrible ways, they were still human but they lost some of the parts that made them human, namely their 'voice'.

They were oppressed and had some of the Freedoms we take for granted taken away, in my opinion they lost their humanity and became nothing more than Androids but they were still biologically human.

I don't think they lost anything that makes them human. Having a voice is a 'bonus' as I see it... a vital bonus for individuality... but a bonus nonetheless for humanity. We could just as easily function as a 'hive'.

Why should there be any more required than one be human to be a part of humanity?

To be human is to be free, it is to be able to express oneself through the arts, through the public arena, through science and mathematics etc...

We use these things as a voice, slaves do not have the right to express themselves through these media, through their voice, that is why I said they were not human.

We may easily be able to function as a hive but we do not, because we are not a hive animal, we are human.
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RE: Dad sues ‘Thank God for Dead Soldiers’ church
Shinylight Wrote:To be human is to be free, it is to be able to express oneself through the arts, through the public arena, through science and mathematics etc...
Weird... here i thought that was to be an unrestricted person. A human is just any species belonging to the genus Homos so far as I can tell...

Quote:We use these things as a voice, slaves do not have the right to express themselves through these media, through their voice, that is why I said they were not human.
Not possessing the "right" does not necessarily mean one cannot. They are plenty human, they are even people... they are just restricted people :S

Quote:We may easily be able to function as a hive but we do not, because we are not a hive animal, we are human.
The implementation of churches are some similar facilities can often reflect 'hive (or 'herd') behavior' as one might expect from a collective consciousness?
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