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What IS good, and how do we determine it?

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What IS good, and how do we determine it?
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 2:29 pm (This post was last modified: June 25, 2015 at 2:29 pm by Longhorn.)
If this thread is going to die, can we please make sure it does so on page 200? My OCD won't let me sleep if it doesn't ._.

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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 3:25 pm
Funny, I'm sure I asked you for the name of the bishop who's words warranted a bombing.

Nobody denies that there has been catholic resistance. Especially true for the lower ranks. The upper ranks largely towed the line. But if you're so into Pius XII, you should also look up his relations to Ante Pavelic and Tiso (active priest and puppet leader of Slovakia - later executed) and his original stance on Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union.

Here's an assessment of the jewish library on Pius XII.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso.../pius.html

They take a totally different stance than your (possibly) hand selected jewish scholars.

Here's one on the Ratline and the Vatican involvement in aiding Nazi war criminals on escaping justice. Among them such august figures as Adolf Eichmann and Ante Pavelic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_%...termath%29
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 5:54 pm
(June 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: This one has outlived its useful life. It's all quibbling and repeating previously stated positions now.

Yeah, we spotted that.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 6:05 pm
(June 25, 2015 at 5:54 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(June 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: This one has outlived its useful life. It's all quibbling and repeating previously stated positions now.

Yeah, we spotted that.

Maybe that's another good reason why some forums lock the threads at 1,000 posts.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 6:06 pm (This post was last modified: June 25, 2015 at 6:08 pm by Metis.)
Was it Slovakia Tizo was running around in? Damnit, thanks for the correction there.

I know most of the works Randy has shared and they certainly are cherry picked. I mean by all means we can all pull polemical works out, Gerard Noel's Hound of Hitler might make good reading if you want something really geared towards brutal honesty of what a cunning two faced hypocrite Pius XII was. I can't be accused of being Anti-Catholic either, Noel is a practicing Catholic and the former long standing editor of the Catholic Herald but even he doesn't mince his words.

Everyone knows there was Catholic resistance on an unofficial level at the lower levels (an exception perhaps to Mother Pascalina) but on a higher level they were at best neutral to Hitlers actions, or at worst like Tizo and Hudal actively supported him.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 6:12 pm
(June 25, 2015 at 6:05 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(June 25, 2015 at 5:54 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Yeah, we spotted that.

Maybe that's another good reason why some forums lock the threads at 1,000 posts.

I don't find any reason good enough to lock threads; if people want to continue to beat a dead horse, they should be free to do so.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 6:34 pm
Don't bother, it's just Randy passive aggressively telling us how we should run the forum again.
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June 25, 2015 at 6:47 pm
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 7:24 pm
(June 25, 2015 at 6:05 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Maybe that's another good reason why some forums lock the threads at 1,000 posts.

This isn't some forums.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 25, 2015 at 7:30 pm
Well he's mistaken me for Christopher Hitchens before now, so this can be some forums if it gets him off at night.


At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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