What IS good, and how do we determine it?

[Longhorn]

Who are YOU kidding?

Did you even read the OP or the first two facts?

from your OP

1. Jesus died by crucifixion
2. Jesus' disciples believed that He rose and appeared to them
3. Saul, the persecutor of the Church, was suddenly changed
4. James, the skeptical brother of Jesus, was suddenly changed
5. Jesus' tomb was found to be empty

feel free to assert these are not in the bible -_-

How convenient you didn't address the rest of my post. Does the cognitive dissonance hurt?

You say there is a being that is present everywhere, can do anything and cares if I believe in it, but you can't provide a single piece of evidence? Your attempts actually make a deity seem LESS plausible. Thanks for making our case for us, I guess.

[Randy Carson]

Who are YOU kidding?

Did you even read the OP or the first two facts?

I must of missed the two facts that show somebody rose from the dead.

I could list it out but then we'd be discussing that topic in two threads instead of one.

[Cato]

I must of missed the two facts that show somebody rose from the dead.

I could list it out but then we'd be discussing that topic in two threads instead of one.

Bible versus are not facts, they are claims; claims you are incapable of justifying. They don't get more believable based on the number of times they're repeated or who repeats them. You have no evidence.

[Mr.wizard]

I must of missed the two facts that show somebody rose from the dead.

I could list it out but then we'd be discussing that topic in two threads instead of one.

Doesn't matter none of those things prove a resurrection, that's the point.

 That is like me saying I can prove I can fly by listing four facts:

1. Water is wet
2. Grass is green
3. Sky is blue
4. People die

Boom! 4 facts, proof that I can fly.

[Randy Carson]

I could list it out but then we'd be discussing that topic in two threads instead of one.

Doesn't matter none of those things prove a resurrection, that's the point.

 That is like me saying I can prove I can fly by listing four facts:

1. Water is wet
2. Grass is green
3. Sky is blue
4. People die

Boom! 4 facts, proof that I can fly.

I love it when anti-Christers provide such clear and compelling reasons for their faith.

[Metis]

I love it when anti-Christers provide such clear and compelling reasons for their faith.

There goes the persecution complex again.

Randy, we do not agree with you. That does not make us Anti-Christian. If I got a crowbar out and battered you for believing what you do yeah, that would be anti Christian. If I made a petrol bomb and threw it into a church that would be anti christian too. Not agreeing with you? Am I anti-Vegan because I like milk? Perhaps I'm anti-dairy farmers because I don't like cheese. O-Oh my! I suppose because I like laminated floors I must be Anti-Carpetist!

Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we want to destroy you. We just think you're wrong, and provided you're not throwing petrol bombs into libraries or stabbing non-Christians we're happy to let you carry on as you are too. That's tolerance, not anti-Catholicism.

If we were Anti-Catholic, you wouldn't be around. There's a lot more non-Catholics than Catholics in America after all.

[Mr.wizard]

Doesn't matter none of those things prove a resurrection, that's the point.

 That is like me saying I can prove I can fly by listing four facts:

1. Water is wet
2. Grass is green
3. Sky is blue
4. People die

Boom! 4 facts, proof that I can fly.

I love it when anti-Christers provide such clear and compelling reasons for their faith.

Ya sure Randy the only reason I don't accept your list as proof of a resurrection is because I'm anti-Christ . I don't know whether a historical jesus existed or not, nor do I care, the point is your "facts" do not prove a resurrection.

[Randy Carson]

I love it when anti-Christers provide such clear and compelling reasons for their faith.

There goes the persecution complex again.

Randy, we do not agree with you. That does not make us Anti-Christian. If I got a crowbar out and battered you for believing what you do yeah, that would be anti Christian. If I made a petrol bomb and threw it into a church that would be anti christian too. Not agreeing with you? Am I anti-Vegan because I like milk? Perhaps I'm anti-dairy farmers because I don't like cheese. O-Oh my! I suppose because I like laminated floors I must be Anti-Carpetist!

Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we want to destroy you. We just think you're wrong, and provided you're not throwing petrol bombs into libraries or stabbing non-Christians we're happy to let you carry on as you are too. That's tolerance, not anti-Catholicism.

If we were Anti-Catholic, you wouldn't be around. There's a lot more non-Catholics than Catholics in America after all.

I love it when anti-Christers provide such clear and compelling reasons for their faith.

Ya sure Randy the only reason I don't accept your list as proof of a resurrection is because I'm anti-Christ . I don't know whether a historical jesus existed or not, nor do I care, the point is your "facts" do not prove a resurrection.

Nah...I'm just making a play on words. Some here like to refer to believers as "christers" so I call them "anti-christers" in return.

It's all just good clean fun.

[Cyberman]

Well, I don't know about that but I'm definitely an anti-Christ - everywhere I go, Christ is not. Odd, that...

[Jackalope]

And are you beginning to see what a huge pain in the arse that would be, having to keep logging in and out of different accounts simply to maintain the forum? It's bad enough doing that on a mobile as it is. Then of course we have the fun of creating new "mod accounts" whenever we recruit new staff and then banning them later on. I'm going to say this plainly - you can imagine it in red ink if you prefer: this is the way things are done here; you don't like it, I'm sure nobody's going to stand between you and the door.

In your browser, you have two windows open.

In the first window, you are logged in as a regular user. Cuss at me all you want.

In the second window, you are logged in as a mod. Correct me all you want.

Easy peasy.

It doesn't work that way. Not so easy peasy.

Also, do you recall me telling you the other day that derailing threads to make suggestions or complaints about the forum is completely inappropriate, and that we have a Suggestions forum for that very purpose? You must have seen it, you quoted it.

Hell, I was even nice.

I don't like having to repeat myself, Randy. This will be the last time I do so.