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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 1:28 pm
Woah woah woah... wait.
So according to Huckabee's plans, a business could refuse service to a gay person because of religious beliefs, but if a gay person (or even straight) refused service to a religious person who refuses to serve gay people because of religious beliefs, that would be illegal?
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 1:30 pm
Sounds very xtian to men.
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 2:17 pm
(July 1, 2015 at 1:28 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Woah woah woah... wait.
So according to Huckabee's plans, a business could refuse service to a gay person because of religious beliefs, but if a gay person (or even straight) refused service to a religious person who refuses to serve gay people because of religious beliefs, that would be illegal?
That's sort of how it reads if you look at the business aspect of it. He seems to be saying that if you, as a consumer, discriminate against a business that refuses services to gay people by not patronizing that business then you could be prosecuted for a hate crime... ?
Presumably, this means that if one didn't choose the marriage- inequality-believing bakery to purchase one's (hetero) wedding cake from because they don't accept or recognize marriage equality, then one could be persecuted for a hate crime?
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 2:54 pm
Quote:Kangaroos, Nazis, and more: Alabama court staffer begs governor to resist ‘homosexual sodomy’
Is there something he knows about the governor that we should be made aware of?
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 3:01 pm
I don't see a problem with jiggery-pokery, as long as it is with consenting adults.
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 4:07 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2015 at 4:25 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
The good news is that with three religious fuckheads in the field of fourteen, that vote (which is already a shrinking demographic), will be split.
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 4:16 pm
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 5:05 pm
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm
No. States do not get to determine what people's rights may be.
Give the southern shits that power and blacks would be enslaved again.
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RE: Damned Jiggery Pokery
July 1, 2015 at 6:44 pm
(July 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: No. States do not get to determine what people's rights may be.
Give the southern shits that power and blacks would be enslaved again.
I am not saying that his opinion is correct. I am saying that one can form a consistent opinion in voting as he has.
I think the idea of "states' rights" being somehow special is idiotic. It is a government telling people what to do. Why would it be that a government that has jurisdiction over a smaller territory is supposedly inherently better than a government with a larger jurisdiction? If that were universally true, then it would be better to have all of our rules made by tiny towns rather than trusting states, since the territory is smaller still.
As things are, having laws different from one state to the next causes troubles. People cross state lines and are not aware of all of the differences in the law, and so they accidentally violate the law because of this.
Also, in practice, I think the federal government is usually better about laws than most states. So I think we would be better off if individual states had less power and if we had more uniform laws in this country.
So I think his opinion is silly. But it need not be inconsistent as far as what Nope posted is concerned.
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