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Sociopathy
#11
RE: Sociopathy
Hmm, so...

Was I premature then? The people I was thinking may be sociopaths on this forums, are they simply talking that way because of their religion? It's hard to tell. Or are the things they say here not strong enough for sociopathy?

Some people seem to genuinely be desperate for a Christian theocracy, with all the rampant persecution that would entail. Is that not a compass pointing in the wrong direction?
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#12
RE: Sociopathy
(July 23, 2015 at 4:35 am)robvalue Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 4:16 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Going by this description, are  religious people sociopaths?

Very interesting, thank you! I was fuzzy on the distinction between these terms.
There's no reason to believe this woman. She mentioned a few scientific studies, but she didn't mention psychology once. Psychology is the science which should be defining terms such as this. She was right first time - the terms are interchangeable, and refer to someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder (DSM).
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#13
RE: Sociopathy
(July 23, 2015 at 4:25 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 4:16 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Going by this description, are  religious people sociopaths?


Not necessarily.  Though Sociopaths tend to gravitate towards religion.

agree. But why? Because it validates their crazy thinking?
Good catch BQ.
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#14
RE: Sociopathy
(July 24, 2015 at 3:19 am)Raymot Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 4:35 am)robvalue Wrote: Very interesting, thank you! I was fuzzy on the distinction between these terms.
There's no reason to believe this woman. She mentioned a few scientific studies, but she didn't mention psychology once. Psychology is the science which should be defining terms such as this. She was right first time - the terms are interchangeable, and refer to someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder (DSM).

Really? OK cheers Smile

Now I'm confused!

As she described it, a psycopath has no moral compass, enjoys the pain of others and receives four times the normal chemical reward response. A sociopath just has a moral compass pointing in the wrong direction.

Could you clarify which of those is correct, and what (if anything) the other condiction would be called?
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#15
RE: Sociopathy
(July 24, 2015 at 4:09 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 4:25 pm)Spooky Wrote: Not necessarily.  Though Sociopaths tend to gravitate towards religion.

agree. But why? Because it validates their crazy thinking?
Good catch BQ.

Sociopaths love to control others. Religion is a great place to do so.
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#16
RE: Sociopathy
(July 24, 2015 at 4:40 am)robvalue Wrote:
(July 24, 2015 at 3:19 am)Raymot Wrote: There's no reason to believe this woman. She mentioned a few scientific studies, but she didn't mention psychology once. Psychology is the science which should be defining terms such as this. She was right first time - the terms are interchangeable, and refer to someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder (DSM).

Really? OK cheers Smile

Now I'm confused!

As she described it, a psycopath has no moral compass, enjoys the pain of others and receives four times the normal chemical reward response. A sociopath just has a moral compass pointing in the wrong direction.

Could you clarify which of those is correct, and what (if anything) the other condiction would be called?
I see them as all intertwined (psycopath/sociopath/antisocial/dissocial), its just a matter of degree. Ya know I like to read:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/min...ychopath-0

http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Har...klist.html
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#17
RE: Sociopathy
(July 23, 2015 at 4:16 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Going by this description, are  religious people sociopaths?

Only if they also lack empathy and are manipulative. Most religious people I know don't fall into that category.
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#18
RE: Sociopathy
(July 24, 2015 at 3:19 am)Raymot Wrote: There's no reason to believe this woman. She mentioned a few scientific studies, but she didn't mention psychology once. Psychology is the science which should be defining terms such as this. She was right first time - the terms are interchangeable, and refer to someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder (DSM).

She also mentions that *some scientist's name I've already forgotten* claimed that more research was needed to determine if a sociopath's brain functioned differently than a normal person's, but two seconds later she claims that their brains are indeed wired differently. Which is it, lady?
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