Journey to Jewish Humanism

[abaris]

ehh...the Jewish part? lol

Being jewish doesn't automatically imply zionist. And zionist doesn't imply baby killer. In fact the zionist movement was leftist by design. It's got nothing to do with the ultra nationalists or the religious nutters of all colors we see today. You might want to check up on Theodor Herzl, the founder of the zionist movement.

Also, there's much to critizise about Israel and the unconditional support they get from the USA. But in this case they're throwing the book at the ones commiting these recent crimes. You might check on that too.

[thesummerqueen]

Being Jewish doesn't make you a zionist. Why don't you stop being a dick automatically out of preconceived notions?

[Iroscato]

Uh-huh. And this is somehow worse than Islamic terrorism and human rights abuses, and Christian theocratic tyranny and mass covering-up of pedophilia...how?

See, the trouble with singling out one religion in particular and holding a special level of bile for the followers is it has a tendency to set you down quite a dark path. We see this in events such as the Holocaust, or attacks on muslims and christians alike (often by each other) simply for their religion.
As for Humanistic Judaism being 'propaganda', I fail to see this. It sounds extremely mild in comparison to Zionism (which make no mistake, is an extremely dangerous ideology in its own right). Hell, you apparently don't even need to believe in God to be accepted.
But do carry on and tell me how it's a gateway drug to get people to take up arms for Israel, by all means.

why denounce all religions equally? They're not all equally deserving of scorn.

Why single out Judaism in particular? Will you be telling me the Holocaust was faked or that it was justified next?

[Shinagami]

Being Jewish doesn't make you a zionist. Why don't you stop being a dick automatically out of preconceived notions?

wow people getting hostile at me for no reason. And why "single out" Judaism? I gave several reasons already.

[Longhorn]

Pretty sure it was you getting hostile at OP for no reason, bud -_-

[Iroscato]

Being Jewish doesn't make you a zionist. Why don't you stop being a dick automatically out of preconceived notions?

wow people getting hostile at me for no reason. And why "single out" Judaism? I gave several reasons already.

The reason I'm getting 'hostile' (and if you think this is hostile, you are very green to the internet indeed) is because straight from the off, you set out to make Presidente feel unwelcome here, and you equated judaism with zionism. That's as foolish and downright dangerous as equating islam with terrorism - it does nothing to help the situation, and makes you appear very blinkered indeed.

Keep giving yourself more rope though.

[Shinagami]

All I said was it was an atheist forum.

[Longhorn]

Yes, that's all that was in the 7 posts you made in this thread -_-

[Shinagami]

So if someone came in announcing they'd found Christ nobody would find that odd? Why are the Jews the only people you are never allowed to criticize?

[Longhorn]

It's just, you know, when you jump on people when they've just introduced themselves simply because you don't like what they think, it's kinda rude -_-