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Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
#11
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
Really, now?

>.>

"Jesus" was a common name in the middle east where there are no people named Jesus today?

In fact, the only places where people are named Jesus are those of Mexican descent.

You are as bad as those who think the biblical Jesus is white.

Seriously.
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#12
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
Quote:"Equal time" for irrational, fundamentalist, propaganda is not more irrational, fundamentalist, propaganda, though I know you have a deep fondness for such tripe.


Fuck you. You'll sit there and listen to that moron Habermas and act like he's god's fucking gift.  IF you want to believe jesus freak bullshit, go ahead.  No skin off my nose.  But there is another side of the coin.
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#13
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
(August 2, 2015 at 12:53 am)Kitan Wrote: Really, now?

>.>

"Jesus" was a common name in the middle east where there are no people named Jesus today?

In fact, the only places where people are named Jesus are those of Mexican descent.

You are as bad as those who think the biblical Jesus is white.

Seriously.

I don't want to get involved in the whole "Jesus never existed" argument because history is not my field of expertise, but this argument is a bit flawed.

What he meant to say was that the name 'Jesus' was particularly common among ancient Jews. The fact it's not that common anymore shouldn't be surprising.

Also the Middle East was conquered by Muslims.

Shit, here in Italy, during the Roman period the most popular name was most likely 'Gaius'. Cultures change and so do names >.< I doubt anyone would call their son "Gay" in one of the most homophobic countries in Europe in this day and age
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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#14
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
It's irrelevant. Please don't fight :c
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#15
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
(July 31, 2015 at 9:20 pm)Cato Wrote:
(July 31, 2015 at 8:30 pm)Nestor Wrote: Same old amateurish mythicist apologetic as always.

Why the fuck is this so hard to understand. The 'Jesus' described by word and deed in the NT never fucking existed; his character is as much myth as Apollo. This is the Jesus Christians proclaim existed. The argument is that some first century rabble-rouser was put to death by crucifixion by a Roman prefect in a territory on the very edge of the empire in a time where a message between Rome and Jerusalem took at best weeks while accepting and adhering as much as possible to local custom; whoopdie fucking doo.

That strung-up Jesus asshole never raised Lazarus, walked on water, turned water into wine, fed a multitude with magic, nor presided over a herd of possessed cliff-diving pigs. Believing this dude Jesus did all this shit is the same as believing Abraham Lincoln really was a vampire slayer.
Why is it hard for you to understand that the earliest sects of Christianity were inspired by a man named Jesus who appeared to some as a sage and to others a lunatic, immortalized by a number of his more educated followers who compiled different histories inspired by his teachings and the embellished anecdotes about his life and death, their primary motive being to reveal their theological dogmas, which centered around this person, to the popular masses in the form of sacred texts?

This is literally the same thing that has happened over and over and over again even into our own day.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#16
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
(August 1, 2015 at 4:28 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(July 31, 2015 at 8:30 pm)Nestor Wrote: The name from which we in the English world derive "Jesus" was common in ancient Palestine... well, yeah, no shit.

"An impartial historian... is obliged to extract truth from satire, as well as from panegyric." - Edward Gibbon.

Unfortunately, the author of that site is clearly neither impartial, nor, by extension, reliable; the conclusion he wishes to reach does not logically follow from the historical curiosities he presents (of which, by the way, he forgets to express even the slightest doubt).

Same old amateurish mythicist apologetic as always.
Except the bible doesn't call him Jesus and leave it there, it names him as Jesus of Nazareth. Naming someones town like that in the ancient world was like giving a surname. The issue is we know from records was no town by the name of Nazareth, and the current site was uninhabited then. So no jesus of Nazareth and therefore no historical Jesus.
Huh? So, your arguments are something like, "We should expect a town noted for its insignificance to have been reported by X, and X does not report it," coupled with, "Archaeology has only discovered artifacts related to the historical Nazareth which date to a period some decades after Jesus was said to have lived there. Therefore, Jesus did not live there."

Hmm. Can no one else really detect anything wrong with that?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#17
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
(August 2, 2015 at 12:54 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:"Equal time" for irrational, fundamentalist, propaganda is not more irrational, fundamentalist, propaganda, though I know you have a deep fondness for such tripe.


Fuck you. You'll sit there and listen to that moron Habermas and act like he's god's fucking gift.  IF you want to believe jesus freak bullshit, go ahead.  No skin off my nose.  But there is another side of the coin.
You used to be mildly entertaining. Now you just come across as one of those dumb, whiny, fundies who should go eat shit and die.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#18
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
They probably doubt the existence of L Ron Hubbard, Albert Einstein, and Adolf Hitler as well.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


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#19
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
Oh, oh - do Robin Hood next!

Tongue
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#20
RE: Shit. What The Hell. Jesus Never Existed
(August 2, 2015 at 3:52 am)Neimenovic Wrote: It's irrelevant. Please don't fight :c

This. Christianity is a load of bullshit either way.

Peace cookies?


"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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