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Pay up Sucker.
#11
RE: Pay up Sucker.
(August 20, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(August 20, 2015 at 1:24 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: And THIS is why I don't go to church.

You mean - you also have been kicked out for not paying? Tongue

Lol, nope, but to demand payment or you can't participate?  Not exactly accepting of all now is it?
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
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#12
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One year the church my parents attended made an estimate of their income and then sent out a statement giving them a dollar figure for the year to pay to belong. They could appeal the amount by giving the church numbers from their last years tax return. If memory serves, the church administration changed rather rapidly. Wonder how you excommunicate lutherns?
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#13
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(August 20, 2015 at 2:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: One year the church my parents attended made an estimate of their income and then sent out a statement giving them a dollar figure for the year to pay to belong. They could appeal the amount by giving the church numbers from their last years tax return. If memory serves, the church administration changed rather rapidly. Wonder how you excommunicate lutherns?

That's crazy!
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#14
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(August 20, 2015 at 3:17 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(August 20, 2015 at 2:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: One year the church my parents attended made an estimate of their income and then sent out a statement giving them a dollar figure for the year to pay to belong. They could appeal the amount by giving the church numbers from their last years tax return. If memory serves, the church administration changed rather rapidly. Wonder how you excommunicate lutherns?

That's crazy!
And christian. Wonder if the pastor wanted a plane?
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#15
RE: Pay up Sucker.
Read this story a little while ago.

I'm never surprised by anything religions do when it comes to money.

Decent people would be supportive of a sick or ailing member.

But religious people like this aren't decent people. They're greedy bastards
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#16
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(August 20, 2015 at 3:57 pm)Beccs Wrote: Read this story a little while ago.

I'm never surprised by anything religions do when it comes to money.

Decent people would be supportive of a sick or ailing member.  

But religious people like this aren't decent people.  They're greedy bastards

A short anecdote on the subject:

I collect watches, and research them to the point of obsession.  You could easily say I've got the equivalent of an Associates degree or better on the subject.  I can identify watches with a high degree of accuracy from a decent distance away.

Anyway, I attended a catholic service during the holidays with an ex and her family.  A very large portion of the service was about the sins of materialism/wealth/etc and how we should give more money to the poor.  He had the balls to say such things with a $15,000.00 Rolex on his wrist! (Two tone gold/stainless Submariner 116613LN)

It wasn't taken kindly when I openly commented on that fact... Undecided
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#17
RE: Pay up Sucker.
(August 20, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(August 20, 2015 at 3:57 pm)Beccs Wrote: Read this story a little while ago.

I'm never surprised by anything religions do when it comes to money.

Decent people would be supportive of a sick or ailing member.  

But religious people like this aren't decent people.  They're greedy bastards

A short anecdote on the subject:

I collect watches, and research them to the point of obsession.  You could easily say I've got the equivalent of an Associates degree or better on the subject.  I can identify watches with a high degree of accuracy from a decent distance away.

Anyway, I attended a catholic service during the holidays with an ex and her family.  A very large portion of the service was about the sins of materialism/wealth/etc and how we should give more money to the poor.  He had the balls to say such things with a $15,000.00 Rolex on his wrist! (Two tone gold/stainless Submariner 116613LN)

It wasn't taken kindly when I openly commented on that fact... Undecided

Precisely this.

I get so pissed when I hear these proponents of the so called "prosperity gospels" conning the poor and desperate out of their money and then claiming their god and Jesus will bless them.

It seems they didn't read the bible, since it says (paraphrased) that someone who does not give all their possessions to the poor cannot be a Christian (of course, it also says that you can't be a follower if you don't hate your family, also).
Dying to live, living to die.
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#18
RE: Pay up Sucker.
(August 20, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(August 20, 2015 at 3:57 pm)Beccs Wrote: Read this story a little while ago.

I'm never surprised by anything religions do when it comes to money.

Decent people would be supportive of a sick or ailing member.  

But religious people like this aren't decent people.  They're greedy bastards

A short anecdote on the subject:

I collect watches, and research them to the point of obsession.  You could easily say I've got the equivalent of an Associates degree or better on the subject.  I can identify watches with a high degree of accuracy from a decent distance away.

Anyway, I attended a catholic service during the holidays with an ex and her family.  A very large portion of the service was about the sins of materialism/wealth/etc and how we should give more money to the poor.  He had the balls to say such things with a $15,000.00 Rolex on his wrist! (Two tone gold/stainless Submariner 116613LN)

It wasn't taken kindly when I openly commented on that fact... Undecided

Two questions come to mind:

1. Are you privy to how much money "he" donates to charity each year? The watch may represent a mere fraction of his total net worth.

2. Are you confident that your own contributions to the poor are greater than his? Either as a percentage or in total?
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#19
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Which raises, once again, where does the money come from and how much does he make?
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#20
RE: Pay up Sucker.
(August 20, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Beccs Wrote: It seems they didn't read the bible, since it says (paraphrased) that someone who does not give all their possessions to the poor cannot be a Christian (of course, it also says that you can't be a follower if you don't hate your family, also).

Beccs-

Where, precisely, did Jesus teach that you cannot be a Christian if you do not give all your money to the poor?
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