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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 9:06 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 12:17 am)Shuffle Wrote: (August 30, 2015 at 11:41 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Abolish or fulfill.
Depends on the stripe of scripture cherry picker you're dealing with. Listen, no atheist will argue that the old testament is not terrible. It is, but to say it is as terrible or more terrible than the Quran is extremely foolish.
I think it is cute that you can say a single verse that may or may not mean something, and may or may not have been abolished. You would think that if Yahweh would really want to christians to kill all believers, he would put something so vague.
Anyway, do you have an answer to my OP or not!?
Your answer is that all faiths have cherry-pickers, and broad-brushing every member of any faith is more aptly a sign of sloppy thinking on the part of the accuser than it is an accurate metric of the denomination under discussion.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 9:13 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (August 31, 2015 at 12:17 am)Shuffle Wrote: Listen, no atheist will argue that the old testament is not terrible. It is, but to say it is as terrible or more terrible than the Quran is extremely foolish.
I think it is cute that you can say a single verse that may or may not mean something, and may or may not have been abolished. You would think that if Yahweh would really want to christians to kill all believers, he would put something so vague.
Anyway, do you have an answer to my OP or not!?
Your answer is that all faiths have cherry-pickers, and broad-brushing every member of any faith is more aptly a sign of sloppy thinking on the part of the accuser than it is an accurate metric of the denomination under discussion.
WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY "EVERY MEMBER!?" I am so done with this! I am sorry for being so angry, but you would be too if you were in my position. Quote me ONCE saying "EVERY MEMBER." You can't because I am NEVER DID!
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 9:21 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 9:13 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (August 31, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Your answer is that all faiths have cherry-pickers, and broad-brushing every member of any faith is more aptly a sign of sloppy thinking on the part of the accuser than it is an accurate metric of the denomination under discussion.
WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY "EVERY MEMBER!?" I am so done with this! I am sorry for being so angry, but you would be too if you were in my position. Quote me ONCE saying "EVERY MEMBER." You can't because I am NEVER DID!
I believe you have fundamentally misread his post, shuffle. He's not talking about you, he's talking about people who DO tar religious people with the same brush. At least, I think that's what he's saying.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 9:21 pm)Iroscato Wrote: (August 31, 2015 at 9:13 pm)Shuffle Wrote: WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY "EVERY MEMBER!?" I am so done with this! I am sorry for being so angry, but you would be too if you were in my position. Quote me ONCE saying "EVERY MEMBER." You can't because I am NEVER DID!
I believe you have fundamentally misread his post, shuffle. He's not talking about you, he's talking about people who DO tar religious people with the same brush. At least, I think that's what he's saying.
Ok, then give me a quote where someone does. that is what the OP asked for, and no one has answered it yet.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 9:45 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (August 31, 2015 at 9:21 pm)Iroscato Wrote: I believe you have fundamentally misread his post, shuffle. He's not talking about you, he's talking about people who DO tar religious people with the same brush. At least, I think that's what he's saying.
Ok, then give me a quote where someone does. that is what the OP asked for, and no one has answered it yet.
I cannot, as I have never seen anyone say it personally.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 9:50 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 9:45 pm)Iroscato Wrote: (August 31, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Ok, then give me a quote where someone does. that is what the OP asked for, and no one has answered it yet.
I cannot, as I have never seen anyone say it personally.
No one has, or else someone would have posted it.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 9:54 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 9:50 pm)Shuffle Wrote: No one has, or else someone would have posted it.
Because you fail to see it as a loaded question. The talking points are formulated in a different way.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 10:26 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 9:54 pm)abaris Wrote: (August 31, 2015 at 9:50 pm)Shuffle Wrote: No one has, or else someone would have posted it.
Because you fail to see it as a loaded question. The talking points are formulated in a different way.
Calling it a loaded question is a sneaky way of saying, "I don't want to answer this question, because, if I answered truthfully, my past position on the topic would turn out to be wrong and conceited."
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 10:39 pm
What's a regressive, and what is it with people assuming that no one answering their question automatically means they are right?
And what is the point of asking this question?
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
August 31, 2015 at 11:57 pm
(August 31, 2015 at 10:39 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What's a regressive, and what is it with people assuming that no one answering their question automatically means they are right?
And what is the point of asking this question? 1. A regressive is a liberal turned bad. They call themselves progressives, which contradicts their actual political stances.
2. I never assumed I was right, I now assume that a quote does not exist.
3. The point is to end the strawman I hear on a daily basis or to give the strawman evidence to back it up.
Anyway, do you you have an answer to the OP?
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