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A Poem I wrote
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RE: A Poem I wrote
(October 29, 2015 at 6:09 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Young man there is heaven or hell after you die

Keep it in mind!

And while you sit around and bank on the fact that this life doesn't matter, and is worthless in comparison to the fanciful imaginary paradise you've so well convinced yourself of, 
I however will make sure I live my life doing something meaningful and worthwhile.


There is nothing admirable in somebody who looks forward to death, who devalues their life so much that they think death will bring a better outcome. Meanwhile they sit around and probably have no actual problems, and a perfectly capable and functional brain, to which those who are actually faced with real life threatening illness and death at any age would look on in disgust, sickened by the purposeful inaction.


Don't preach your beliefs to me. I am not fooled in to thinking that there is an omnipresent force that will do the hard work that I cannot, giving me an ultimate right to not take action, the same force that would make me believe that injustice, discrimination, starvation, and poverty are all a part of some master plan for the betterment of mankind, excusing attrocities and wrongdoings as less of a tragedy than they are by assigning a nonexistent and inexplicable purpose to them from god.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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#22
RE: A Poem I wrote
TrueChristian isn't worth it.
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(November 11, 2015 at 7:32 pm)heatiosrs Wrote:
(October 29, 2015 at 6:09 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Young man there is heaven or hell after you die

Keep it in mind!

And while you sit around and bank on the fact that this life doesn't matter, and is worthless in comparison to the fanciful imaginary paradise you've so well convinced yourself of, 
I however will make sure I live my life doing something meaningful and worthwhile.


There is nothing admirable in somebody who looks forward to death, who devalues their life so much that they think death will bring a better outcome. Meanwhile they sit around and probably have no actual problems, and a perfectly capable and functional brain, to which those who are actually faced with real life threatening illness and death at any age would look on in disgust, sickened by the purposeful inaction.


Don't preach your beliefs to me. I am not fooled in to thinking that there is an omnipresent force that will do the hard work that I cannot, giving me an ultimate right to not take action, the same force that would make me believe that injustice, discrimination, starvation, and poverty are all a part of some master plan for the betterment of mankind, excusing attrocities and wrongdoings as less of a tragedy than they are by assigning a nonexistent and inexplicable purpose to them from god.

Now while I agree that there are no such things ad sky wizards, I really hate the phrases "productivity" and like you just said "worthwhile and meaningful". This always ends up as classism and judgmental of especially low wage workers or even the unemployed. 

There will always be plenty of workers and even workers who move up and business owners. There are more things to life than judging someone by what they don't do, or judging people who don't do it like you. The most meaningful things I find worthy have nothing to do with work. Promoting education, promoting science, and promoting the idea that we are the same species. 

Most humans are lucky if they can pay their bills and keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. Being yourself is the most important thing. Being willing to consider you got it wrong is also important. Outside that if you have to work, find a job with people you enjoy working with, even if it isn't the job you want. 

But I do agree it is a waste of a life to chase after utopias that do not exist.
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(November 13, 2015 at 6:22 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 11, 2015 at 7:32 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: And while you sit around and bank on the fact that this life doesn't matter, and is worthless in comparison to the fanciful imaginary paradise you've so well convinced yourself of, 
I however will make sure I live my life doing something meaningful and worthwhile.


There is nothing admirable in somebody who looks forward to death, who devalues their life so much that they think death will bring a better outcome. Meanwhile they sit around and probably have no actual problems, and a perfectly capable and functional brain, to which those who are actually faced with real life threatening illness and death at any age would look on in disgust, sickened by the purposeful inaction.


Don't preach your beliefs to me. I am not fooled in to thinking that there is an omnipresent force that will do the hard work that I cannot, giving me an ultimate right to not take action, the same force that would make me believe that injustice, discrimination, starvation, and poverty are all a part of some master plan for the betterment of mankind, excusing attrocities and wrongdoings as less of a tragedy than they are by assigning a nonexistent and inexplicable purpose to them from god.

Now while I agree that there are no such things ad sky wizards, I really hate the phrases "productivity" and like you just said "worthwhile and meaningful". This always ends up as classism and judgmental of especially low wage workers or even the unemployed. 

There will always be plenty of workers and even workers who move up and business owners. There are more things to life than judging someone by what they don't do, or judging people who don't do it like you. The most meaningful things I find worthy have nothing to do with work. Promoting education, promoting science, and promoting the idea that we are the same species. 

Most humans are lucky if they can pay their bills and keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. Being yourself is the most important thing. Being willing to consider you got it wrong is also important. Outside that if you have to work, find a job with people you enjoy working with, even if it isn't the job you want. 

But I do agree it is a waste of a life to chase after utopias that do not exist.
I was referring to people who do not ever find what's meaningful to them, or do something to achieve personal success, or follow their dreams, because their bible has filled that hole.


Success is different for everyone, im not saying that what's meaningful always leads to progressing humanity, or making a big change like what my personal idea of success is for myself. However, when the bible is the only thing that matters you waste your life never finding something that you are passionate about in the real world. Purposeful inaction is the biproduct of the dogma that has convinced people in to looking forward to death. When you no longer value, cherish every moment you have, time goes from the most valuable thing in the world to the least.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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RE: A Poem I wrote
(October 22, 2015 at 10:45 pm)heatiosrs Wrote:
I look up and the starry night I can see
When I leave earth what will be left of me?
In all the books, we're told earth is our destiny,
Yet I can't help but wonder what lies in the galaxies.

How will I stand out as an individual human being?
Will I act on creativity and ideas exempt from fear of completing?
How shall I live unconcerned with others conceding?
What is life without ever taking a beating,
For fear of public recognition is only self-defeating
What is the purpose, if never looking for deeper meaning.

So alas, I look up at the night sky and must ponder the stars
For every hardship I face, I am reminded who we are
A product of evolution, and we've come so far
What only concerns myself will keep me barred
So when I die I know impact was made, if I could manage to change the stars.



"In awe, I watched the waxing moon ride across the zenith of the heavens like an ambered chariot towards the ebony void of infinite space, wherein the tethered belts of Jupiter and Mars hang, forever festooned in their orbital majesty.
And as I looked at all this I thought . . .
I must put a roof on this toilet."

TongueTongueTongue
There are no atheists in terrorist training camps.



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