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I Just Lied
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I Just Lied
A dear friend of mine just posted on FB that her mother has had a stroke and the treatment they want to use on her could potentially be fatal if not administered flawlessly. Yesterday was the one-year anniversary of her father's death. This woman is not emotionally in a place to cope with the death of her other parent. Her post said, "I urgently need prayers for my momma!" I lied and said I'd pray, because for someone reason in a sea of, "praying!" comments I just couldn't bear the thought of being the lone, "positive thoughts!" but I also didn't want to say nothing either, because she's my friend.
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#2
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Uh... OK?
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#3
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There are polite white lies, and friendship and compassion -- especially in the face of someone's impending loss -- should trump questions of 'purity' or pedantry. I think you did the right thing.
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she doesnt know that your an atheist?
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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(October 27, 2015 at 5:15 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: Uh... OK?

I was just sharing something, because it's the first time since coming to terms with being an atheist I have said the words, "praying for you". It was just such a cliche phrase I used and it seemed like the right thing to say at the time, even if it wasn't true. I guess I was just looking for some support or reassurance that I'm not a total assbag for being dishonest.

(October 27, 2015 at 5:18 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: she doesnt know that your an atheist?

No, but my own parents don't even know. She is a devout Christian, but she isn't "in your face" about it. We've honestly not been in touch as much these days, as she's been traveling a lot with friends. She's just not in a good place emotionally since her father's passing, it just didn't feel right to talk about my lack of faith, especially since these trying times have had her feeling like hers has been tested.
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Well, that's understandable. And technically, for fuzzy enough definitions of "prayer" you haven't even lied Smile
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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(October 27, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Quantum Wrote: Well, that's understandable. And technically, for fuzzy enough definitions of "prayer" you haven't even lied Smile

Thank you Smile
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An alternative for the future in case you decide you don't want to say you'll pray is to tell someone they're in your thoughts. A lot of Christians assume this means you're praying for them anyways.

Either way, like I've said in other threads, lying isn't bad or immoral. A lot of times the reason you are lying or whatever you're hiding is bad or immoral. The lie itself isn't the problem. So if you tell a lie that makes a friend feel better and doesn't do anyone any harm, there's nothing wrong with that.

Also, lying about prayer isn't really much of a lie imo. The result is exactly the same whether you actually pray or not.
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(October 27, 2015 at 5:18 pm)Jaxxie1181 Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 5:15 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: Uh... OK?

I was just sharing something, because it's the first time since coming to terms with being an atheist I have said the words, "praying for you". It was just such a cliche phrase I used and it seemed like the right thing to say at the time, even if it wasn't true. I guess I was just looking for some support or reassurance that I'm not a total assbag for being dishonest.

(October 27, 2015 at 5:18 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: she doesnt know that your an atheist?

No, but my own parents don't even know. She is a devout Christian, but she isn't "in your face" about it. We've honestly not been in touch as much these days, as she's been traveling a lot with friends. She's just not in a good place emotionally since her father's passing, it just didn't feel right to talk about my lack of faith, especially since these trying times have had her feeling like hers has been tested.

well if your still in the closet about your atheism that makes complete sense that you would tell her that you would pray but pretending to be something your not to people around you im sure will take its toll on you feeling bad about lies guilt ,exc. so consider telling someone you know who isnt religious , or make friends with people who are not religious , who you can share your true feelings and just be relaxed and be yourself and spend time with non religious people offline . its really stressful having to be fake around everyone .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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Nothing wrong with an occasional stretching of truth to save the feelings of others.
Dying to live, living to die.
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