turn to God and God turns to you

[downbeatplumb]

Another delusional idiot.

Dan, there's a reason why nobody wants to be like you. In my country folks like you stand on the street raving on about Jesus, and everyone either laughs or tries to avoid eye contact because you don't want the crazy to rub off.

Fellow Brit?

[Jackalope]

Therefore say thou unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Turn ye unto me, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will turn unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. Zachariah 1:3 KJV

I find it quite funny that "Daniel" is appealing to the book of Zechariah, which has about as much to do with Jesus as my left foot. The dude doesn't even know how to spell it.

A Jesus freak appealing to Hebrew prophets to win converts amongst atheist skeptics.

What a fucking assclown.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Another delusional idiot.

Dan, there's a reason why nobody wants to be like you. In my country folks like you stand on the street raving on about Jesus, and everyone either laughs or tries to avoid eye contact because you don't want the crazy to rub off.

Fellow Brit?

Quite.

[robvalue]

Me too!

You can't get away with that shit here. Start spouting on and on about God and you've blown all credibility.

We told him to get lost, and he did. God, that is.

[Edwardo Piet]

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And then, in the REAL world, god fails to n
make appearances, to answers prayers, and to respond to the evils committed by his followers in his name.

Same again tomorrow...

God's interaction with us seems to be inversely proportional to the sophistication of our recording technology.

He used to be really angry too. He'd have struck me dead for calling him a wank magnet. All I get now is a mild rebuke from people claiming to speak for him.

I'm not picking on you two, or anyone else who discusses God, but I always try to avoid references to God. I will refer to the concept of God, but I want to be sure NOT to give the impression I am talking about anything that has been show to be real. Thus I will put "God" in quotes, by which I mean: ' The concept meant by most religious people, which they refer to as God, but which I have no good reason to believe exists in reality '. I also put the pronoun "he" in quotes for the same reason.

It is much easier to find fault with the concept, than to find fault with a, ( supposed  ), real deity - if "God" were really to exist, he is the boss man, the top dog, the all powerful can-do type of entity who made everything, makes all the rules, and can't be faulted. So if we find fault with "God" it's not "God" at fault but us.

So . . .

[ in the REAL world, "God" fails to make appearances, to answers prayers, and to respond to the evils committed by "his" followers in "his" name. ]

[ "God's" interaction with us seems to be inversely proportional to the sophistication of our recording technology. "He" used to be really angry too. "He'd" have struck me dead for calling "him" a wank magnet. All I get now is a mild rebuke from people claiming to speak for "him". ]

My intention is that I don't want to give theists the impression that I am conferring any value upon their claims that "God" exists. The idea is to show that the concept of "God" as proposed by others is ridiculous, logically unsound, lacking in evidence etc., and if real would be unworthy of praise, to boot. Fortunately, on the latter point, there is no good reason which I have found, to accept the reality of any such thing as "God".

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I disagree. What something is and whether it exists is a different matter. Essence and existence are not the same.

Here's another common dodge—not a dodge, a common response: "What God is, is a concept; it's a concept in people's minds; it's a concept that enriches their spirits and inspires them." If you believe this, you're definitely an atheist. God is not a concept; the concept of God is a concept. A cup of coffee is not a concept; the concept of a cup of coffee is a concept. Elementary philosophy.

Source of quote: http://franklycurious.com/LMNucleus/?itemid=1963

For example: The Christian God is a supernatural creator of the universe and supposedly male. That's what he is, that's his definition and his essence.

Now there's the separate question... does he exist?

(Of course the answer is almost certainly "No fucking way. There is no skydaddy").

[abaris]

You all realize you're disectiing a turd? True christian is purely shit and run. Wether he's a troll or a Poe is for the mods to decide, but he's a phony, that's for sure.

[Edwardo Piet]

The way I see it is - phony or genuine he talks shit.

[Cecelia]

You are quoting from a book written by people who understood the world about as well (and maybe not even as well) as the people living at the time it was written. A book that believes all people descend from Adam and Eve, and from Noah and his three sons, despite the fact that other origins stories exist when if Adam and Eve existed there would be no other origin stories.

A book that claims that God chose a tiny group of people to give his word to, despite all of the people descending from Noah, rather than give it to the entire world.

[Darwinian]

What a load of crap.

It is what it is. doesn't matter if you think it's bs.

It is what it is. doesn't matter if you think it's real.

[ignoramus]

C'mon Daniel...
Pease check out all the nova docos on youtube about evolution, genetics, dna, tree of life, etc
Then watch a few on the 4 horsemen.

I don't think you will. In fact I don't think you are able to.
Your indoctrination will not allow it. It fights for its self preservation.

I say fight it! Fight it with everything you've got. Kill the infestation.
FACT: You are not in charge of your reasoning ability. You are the host only.
Many here have had the courage to fight it and win. Do you have that courage?