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No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
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No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
http://www.newser.com/story/216748/scien...-legs.html

Quote:Scientists Finally Know Why Snakes Lost Their Legs

Apparently it was a need to burrow underground


Quote:What they found was a unique structure in the inner ear that controls balance and hearing and is shared only by burrowing animals. Modern snakes that live in water don't have it. Using that information, researchers determined the ancestors of modern snakes actually lost their limbs in order to hunt and live in burrows, per the press release.


You can bet your ass this won't be on display at the creatard "museum."
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#2
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
You'd think claws would make burrowing more convenient. Not less. Time and evolution seems to disagree.
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RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
(November 29, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You'd think claws would make burrowing more convenient. Not less. Time and evolution seems to disagree.

The article said that '...the ancestors of modern snakes actually lost their limbs in order to hunt and live in burrows...', not to actually dig burrows.

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#4
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Oh, they're going after the critters that dig the burrows. As long as you're more slender than what you're hunting, their primary defense doesn't work so well.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#5
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
I wonder when they lost their ability to talk?

Angel
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#6
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
(November 29, 2015 at 2:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I wonder when they lost their ability to talk?

Angel

Just after they convinced that naked chick to eat the apple...

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#7
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Where are the creatards to defend their bullshit?
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#8
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Sometimes they don't take the bait. We have some...low hanging fruit here. Cool
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#9
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Was science THERE??

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
(November 29, 2015 at 12:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.newser.com/story/216748/scien...-legs.html

Quote:Scientists Finally Know Why Snakes Lost Their Legs

Apparently it was a need to burrow underground


Quote:What they found was a unique structure in the inner ear that controls balance and hearing and is shared only by burrowing animals. Modern snakes that live in water don't have it. Using that information, researchers determined the ancestors of modern snakes actually lost their limbs in order to hunt and live in burrows, per the press release.


You can bet your ass this won't be on display at the creatard "museum."

The article does not provide enough to elucidate why this discovery shows the common ancester of modern snakes lost their legs because of burrow living, or even that the common ancester of modern snakes were burrow living at all.

The burrow specific feature could easily have evolved in response to burrow living that developed separately from leglessness.

In fact, that fact that sea snakes lack the burrow specific feature weakens the argument that burrow specific feature in land snakes indicates common ancesters of snakes were burrow living.  The argument for common ancesters of modern snake being burrow living would be strengthened if the burrow specific feature had been present in all snakes, land or water dwelling.

Since burrow specific inner ear structure appears to have arisen in diverse animals that adapted to burrow living independently, it shows that inner ear structure can clearly arise independently in different animals to meet a common need.  What researchers need to show to support burrowing snake ancester theory is burrow specific features on land snakes did not in fact arise independently and separately in different snake families to meet some common environmental need,  but is in fact a share primitive trait inherited form a common ancester that also had it.  Furthermore they must also show the lack of burrow specific trait in sea snakes is not a primitive trait, but is in fact a derived trait.  In other words, the burrow specific traits were present in ancesters of sea snakes but were subsequently lost when sea snakes stopped living in burrows,  Furthermore they need to show the transition fossil of snake ancesters in the process of loosing external legs all had burrow specific features that are clearly ancester all to the burrow specific feature found in modern snakes.
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