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No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
#11
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Click on the link for Science Advances in the original story.

Then select Full Text.
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#12
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
(November 29, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You'd think claws would make burrowing more convenient. Not less. Time and evolution seems to disagree.
Totally reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_J-imkehU

I was kinda grossed out first viewing the video so,

TLDR; They surgically cut open some animal(Think it's a giraffe), and show that it has a tube for some biological process, that needs to go to a valve or something right next to it, but instead goes the opposite direction, wraps around, twists and turns, only to end up going to that valve that was right next to it.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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#13
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Yeah, I heard thatgiraffes have this nerve or blood vessel that is far longer than it has any reason to be. People want to say the world must be designed because of how complex it is. That's not a sign of good design. Either we weren't designed, or our creator didn't really know what he was doing

Though I guess in his defense he was kind of a beginner, and this is probably the only project he's ever done because some theists believe the rest of the universe is devoid of life.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#14
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Actually the laryngeal nerve is a good example of how you should look deeper; and how assumption of bad design is a poor principle.
This article http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/10/med...39221.html (note I linked to the last page, as it references all four parts) shows, that there is likely good reason, for the pathway. That it serves multiple functions, causes issues when it takes a shorter pathway in a small percentage of humans. And also how there is a direct nerve pathway to the pharynx as these critics are asking for.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#15
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Yeah, sure, RR.  The surest way to convince people is to trot out propaganda from the very group of shitheads who are being scrutinized.

It is not as if their agenda is not clear and obviously it works on people like you.
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#16
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
(November 30, 2015 at 2:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah, sure, RR.  The surest way to convince people is to trot out propaganda from the very group of shitheads who are being scrutinized.

It is not as if their agenda is not clear and obviously it works on people like you.

Is what they said not true? What makes it propaganda? You may note that attacking the person, rather than the argument, doesn't work on people like me.
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#17
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
Right.  They are full of shit.  And so are you.

http://oolon.awardspace.com/SMOGGM.htm#r...tlaryngeal


Quote:Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes

So with these considerations in mind, here are currently 96... erm... anomalies in this intelligently designed living world. Pick from the index, or scroll down to read them through.
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#18
RE: No Gods or Apples or "Sin" needed
(December 1, 2015 at 2:00 am)Minimalist Wrote:


I would be careful with an argument from bad design.  As an Engineer/technician, I have never seen bad design, and concluded that it was not designed at all.  And there may be a function or good reason for what you think is bad design; however you are just not seeing it.   But it's apparent that you didn't read the article I had posted, on the topic which was brought up.
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