Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.

[Brian37]

Back up again, at least for now, but that is another thing I had not considered, but in all this i could hear the fan so not sure that is the case. Oh and as far as important data, I dont keep that on any computer, I keep it on paper or I write it down, if this thing crashes for good, I got my money's worth from it.  Shit I paid less for it than my first month of cell phone service. I use it all the time and have probably squeezed about 2 years worth of use into one year. It is a used computer.

No I don't put it on my bed when i bank my spunky. It is on a tv tray.

In my experience, when there is dust in the fan, it bunches up on the fan's cover.  The fan can still turn, but the air is not flowing properly.

It is gone, even without the dust i really used it night and day far more than the average person. For what I paid for it it was pennies a day for the time I had it. it simply wore out.

I am more concerned with having to return this new one. i am very pissed I cant use Skype on it. I am worried about getting anything with windows on it not pleased with the 10 reviews. I had a nightmare with a Vista tower that gave me the blue screen of death right from the start.

This Chromebook is an open source OS. Everything works great and it is fast, but no Skype outside of chat, even the official Skype website said it only allows for chat on Chromebook. 

I need the Skype because I have a friend in Australia who is in a hospital rehab recovering from a a stroke and that is what he has and I am not about to expect him to downoad something else. And it makes me sick that the market competition isn't based on pleasing the customer, but a result of assholes in the boardrooms of Microfuck, Chrome and Skype.

[bennyboy]

In my experience, when there is dust in the fan, it bunches up on the fan's cover.  The fan can still turn, but the air is not flowing properly.

It is gone, even without the dust i really used it night and day far more than the average person. For what I paid for it it was pennies a day for the time I had it. it simply wore out.

I am more concerned with having to return this new one. i am very pissed I cant use Skype on it. I am worried about getting anything with windows on it not pleased with the 10 reviews. I had a nightmare with a Vista tower that gave me the blue screen of death right from the start.

This Chromebook is an open source OS. Everything works great and it is fast, but no Skype outside of chat, even the official Skype website said it only allows for chat on Chromebook. 

I need the Skype because I have a friend in Australia who is in a hospital rehab recovering from a a stroke and that is what he has and I am not about to expect him to downoad something else. And it makes me sick that the market competition isn't based on pleasing the customer, but a result of assholes in the boardrooms of Microfuck, Chrome and Skype.

I don't think it's a conspiracy in this case.  You have a non-standard operating system, and Skype doesn't run on it.  Not really anybody's fault, as none of the parties you called assholes are obliged to make sure the software you want runs on the OS you bought.  You have to research it before you buy it.

[Brian37]

It is gone, even without the dust i really used it night and day far more than the average person. For what I paid for it it was pennies a day for the time I had it. it simply wore out.

I am more concerned with having to return this new one. i am very pissed I cant use Skype on it. I am worried about getting anything with windows on it not pleased with the 10 reviews. I had a nightmare with a Vista tower that gave me the blue screen of death right from the start.

This Chromebook is an open source OS. Everything works great and it is fast, but no Skype outside of chat, even the official Skype website said it only allows for chat on Chromebook. 

I need the Skype because I have a friend in Australia who is in a hospital rehab recovering from a a stroke and that is what he has and I am not about to expect him to downoad something else. And it makes me sick that the market competition isn't based on pleasing the customer, but a result of assholes in the boardrooms of Microfuck, Chrome and Skype.

I don't think it's a conspiracy in this case.  You have a non-standard operating system, and Skype doesn't run on it.  Not really anybody's fault, as none of the parties you called assholes are obliged to make sure the software you want runs on the OS you bought.  You have to research it before you buy it.

NO not a conspiracy never said it was, just a bad fucking attitude. Yes I do blame them because they have the attitude of ignoring customer demand. Chrome is competing with Windows, yes that is part of the free market, not against it. But that lack of disclosure put me in the position of having to find out after the fact. 

This is the overall climate of global corporatism. The fight over customers isn't about them, the fight over customers is a competition at the top for volume. Now as an example, before I bought this, I considered seeing if the old won could be fixed, the mom and pop guy I bought it from didn't simply take the old one and say " I can fix it" he flat out told me how much it would cost to fix the old one. Point being big business cares too much about making the sale first than to doing the right thing and making sure the buy is the right fit for the consumer. No that is not a conspiracy, but it is a bad climate of priorities. 

Making a quick buck is unfortunately what it is about. But just like expecting workers to multi task and work more and get paid less, rushing to make the sale has a hidden cost. You leave the consumer with a bad taste in their mouths they are going to end up going somewhere else. That is precisely what I am doing today returning this, and I would not advise anyone to buy a computer from Walmart. And even outside Walmart, anyone can tell you that Microsoft has had a bad image with several of it's versions. One mistake I can accept, but when you are putting out crap that frustrates the public it over and over it isn't simply "We did our best" and "do your research". When you deliberately rush to make the sale, that isn't a mistake. 

It is NOT a conspiracy, no. But there is a huge difference between calling something a good business practice pointing to a profit margin, and the separate issue of ethics and morals and calling something a good business practice, which CAN include making a buck and compete without rushing to make the buck. There is so much needless waste in our current global market, and this is simply one example.

[bennyboy]

I don't see the entitlement. Why do you think that Google is responsible for providing you with the opportunity of using Skype? Did they have a contract with you? Did they disable Skype usage with a firmware update?

The fact is that you bought a product, assuming it would do something you wanted it to do, it didn't do it, and you were disappointed. I don't see what Microsoft has to do with your Google (not Microsoft) Chrome (not Windows) product. Are you pissed at Ford for something your Audi doesn't support?

[Brian37]

I don't see the entitlement.  Why do you think that Google is responsible for providing you with the opportunity of using Skype?  Did they have a contract with you?  Did they disable Skype usage with a firmware update?

The fact is that you bought a product, assuming it would do something you wanted it to do, it didn't do it, and you were disappointed.  I don't see what Microsoft has to do with your Google (not Microsoft) Chrome (not Windows) product.  Are you pissed at Ford for something your Audi doesn't support?

You don't get it, stop using coded language like "responsibility". That is fucking bullshit, that is what allows for our free for all market.

I am talking about the way humans view business. Stop fucking defending it as if it always shits rainbows.

I am saying that they could do better to prevent a bad experience if they wanted to. You are arguing legality, I am arguing pragmatism. The way they do it now is simply throwing anything they want at the consumer and letting them deal with it. It does work for the profit margin sure, but collectively speaking as a climate, it is negated by the flood of consumerism. it is a hidden cost. I simply think it is simply better to avoid that by setting up conditions so that fewer people walk away with a bad taste in their mouths. 

Your stupidly arguing "responsibility" is also why we cant get off big oil. The same stupid language that Nader had to fight to get car companies to make safer cars. Yes they can do what they want, but what I am arguing is why? I simply don't think they understand the hidden cost to society by doing it the way they do.

The fact is they don't care. So if your argument is they are under no obligation to care, yea and? That is exactly why I am taking this product back today. If they want my business in the future then they should think twice about what they do in their boardrooms. Or is your argument that me going somewhere else to send them a message is not part of that free market?

I find it funny when atheists rightfully blast the blind faith of religion, but worship the private sector blindly the same way. NO sorry, blaming the customer all the time is what you are advocating.

[Brian37]

Ok just took the Chrome book back, just got a toshiba laptop with windows 10 on it, had a couple hickups with loading skype but it now works, stupid gmail was fighting with my cable email to recover my passwords but also got passed that, looks good right now and everything I want to work works.

But I have to get used to not having an external mouse which is great for copy and past and have to learn to use the mousepad.

[bennyboy]

I don't see the entitlement.  Why do you think that Google is responsible for providing you with the opportunity of using Skype?  Did they have a contract with you?  Did they disable Skype usage with a firmware update?

The fact is that you bought a product, assuming it would do something you wanted it to do, it didn't do it, and you were disappointed.  I don't see what Microsoft has to do with your Google (not Microsoft) Chrome (not Windows) product.  Are you pissed at Ford for something your Audi doesn't support?

You don't get it, stop using coded language like "responsibility". That is fucking bullshit, that is what allows for our free for all market.

I am talking about the way humans view business. Stop fucking defending it as if it always shits rainbows.

I am saying that they could do better to prevent a bad experience if they wanted to. You are arguing legality, I am arguing pragmatism. The way they do it now is simply throwing anything they want at the consumer and letting them deal with it. It does work for the profit margin sure, but collectively speaking as a climate, it is negated by the flood of consumerism. it is a hidden cost. I simply think it is simply better to avoid that by setting up conditions so that fewer people walk away with a bad taste in their mouths. 

Your stupidly arguing "responsibility" is also why we cant get off big oil. The same stupid language that Nader had to fight to get car companies to make safer cars. Yes they can do what they want, but what I am arguing is why? I simply don't think they understand the hidden cost to society by doing it the way they do.

The fact is they don't care. So if your argument is they are under no obligation to care, yea and? That is exactly why I am taking this product back today. If they want my business in the future then they should think twice about what they do in their boardrooms. Or is your argument that me going somewhere else to send them a message is not part of that free market?

I find it funny when atheists rightfully blast the blind faith of religion, but worship the private sector blindly the same way. NO sorry, blaming the customer all the time is what you are advocating.

No offense, but that's crazy talk.

You bought a fucking notebook computer, and it didn't do what you wanted, and you go from that to rants about big oil?  Dude. . . come on.

As for me worshiping anything. . . fuck off.  But I don't believe every company has to model itself after your personal needs of the day.  Next time, research your product and see if it does what you want it to.

[bennyboy]

Ok just took the Chrome book back, just got a toshiba laptop with windows 10 on it, had a couple hickups with loading skype but it now works, stupid gmail was fighting with my cable email to recover my passwords but also got passed that, looks good right now and everything I want to work works.

But I have to get used to not having an external mouse which is great for copy and past and have to learn to use the mousepad.

I hear that.  I'd use a mouse on my cellphone if I could.

[dyresand]

You can flash install a different OS on chrome book.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/h...hromebook/

[Brian37]

You can flash install a different OS on chrome book.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/h...hromebook/

Too late. Already took it back, went to Office Depot got a Toshiba with Windows 10 on it. No major problems so far.