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Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.
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RE: Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.
(December 19, 2015 at 12:09 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(December 18, 2015 at 10:50 am)Brian37 Wrote: You don't get it, stop using coded language like "responsibility". That is fucking bullshit, that is what allows for our free for all market.

I am talking about the way humans view business. Stop fucking defending it as if it always shits rainbows.

I am saying that they could do better to prevent a bad experience if they wanted to. You are arguing legality, I am arguing pragmatism. The way they do it now is simply throwing anything they want at the consumer and letting them deal with it. It does work for the profit margin sure, but collectively speaking as a climate, it is negated by the flood of consumerism. it is a hidden cost. I simply think it is simply better to avoid that by setting up conditions so that fewer people walk away with a bad taste in their mouths. 

Your stupidly arguing "responsibility" is also why we cant get off big oil. The same stupid language that Nader had to fight to get car companies to make safer cars. Yes they can do what they want, but what I am arguing is why? I simply don't think they understand the hidden cost to society by doing it the way they do.

The fact is they don't care. So if your argument is they are under no obligation to care, yea and? That is exactly why I am taking this product back today. If they want my business in the future then they should think twice about what they do in their boardrooms. Or is your argument that me going somewhere else to send them a message is not part of that free market?

I find it funny when atheists rightfully blast the blind faith of religion, but worship the private sector blindly the same way. NO sorry, blaming the customer all the time is what you are advocating.

No offense, but that's crazy talk.

You bought a fucking notebook computer, and it didn't do what you wanted, and you go from that to rants about big oil?  Dude. . . come on.

As for me worshiping anything. . . fuck off.  But I don't believe every company has to model itself after your personal needs of the day.  Next time, research your product and see if it does what you want it to.

Since when is the idea of caring about what the customer wants "crazy"? You slammed me for complaining, that to me is fucking lopsided thinking, if we live in a free market, "sucks to  be you" and "it's your fault all the time" is not a two way street. Part of the free market is bitching in order to get the business to care. That is really the only thing bout my fellow liberals have failed at over the past 30 years, we've grown used to taking it and taking it and taking it, well, that is changing. 

Nope sorry, the business owner does not get to decide for the consumer the consumer gets to decide, so if they want my business, then they should listen when someone bitches.
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#22
RE: Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.
(December 20, 2015 at 12:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Since when is the idea of caring about what the customer wants "crazy"?
That's not crazy. What's crazy is comparing your bad experience of a product not doing what you assumed it would do to "getting off oil."

Quote: You slammed me for complaining, that to me is fucking lopsided thinking, if we live in a free market, "sucks to  be you" and "it's your fault all the time" is not a two way street.
If I go out with a girl because I believe she's the kind of girl that will wear my panties on her head and bark like a puppy, and she does not-- should I a) rage because she failed to inform me pre-date that she doesn't wear people's panties on her head or b) accept that she's not responsible for my expectations?

In your world, she should be severely castigated or face disapproval because she was not, after all, a panty-on-head wearer. But that doesn't make sense, since she never did anything to establish my false assumptions about her.
Quote: Part of the free market is bitching in order to get the business to care. That is really the only thing bout my fellow liberals have failed at over the past 30 years, we've grown used to taking it and taking it and taking it, well, that is changing. 
The company probably isn't taking much of an interest in this thread.

Quote:Nope sorry, the business owner does not get to decide for the consumer the consumer gets to decide, so if they want my business, then they should listen when someone bitches.
Unfortunately, I'm not the owner of Google, nor is anyone else on these forums, so far as I know.
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#23
RE: Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.
UGGGGGGGGG........... Ok seem to have my new Toshiba laptop problem today. Ok right in the middle of serfing the net POW my mouse pad starts going nuts on me not doing what it is supposed to. A so after an hour of trying to find the settings for it because I am not familiar with the version, I finally find the "default settings" which take you back to the factory settings before you had downloaded anything, after a a couple reboots and completely shutting down the computer and a couple of attempts at "factory setting" for the mouse pad, it seems to have finally stabilized.

While it is no blue screen of death, still annoying. Good thing is I seemed to have fixed it myself without having to waist a trip to where I bought it, but if it happens again tonight I am taking it back tomorrow. I don't think it was hardware, I do think some software glitch though.
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#24
RE: Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.
(December 21, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Brian37 Wrote: UGGGGGGGGG........... Ok seem to have my new Toshiba laptop problem today. Ok right in the middle of serfing the net POW my mouse  pad starts going nuts on me not doing what it is supposed to. A so after an hour of trying to find the settings for it because I am not familiar with the version, I finally find the "default settings" which take you back to the factory settings before you had downloaded anything, after a a couple reboots and completely shutting down the computer and a couple of attempts at "factory setting" for the mouse pad, it seems to have finally stabilized.

While it is no blue screen of death, still annoying. Good thing is I seemed to have fixed it myself without having to waist a trip to where I bought it, but if it happens again tonight I am taking it back tomorrow. I don't think it was hardware, I do think some software glitch though.

Intermittent problems are usually hardware, not software, though certainly it can be a driver or something as well.

I find when I use my laptop, hand pressure OUTSIDE the mouse (like resting my hand too near it) can cause it to go crazy.
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RE: Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.
I don't need to hear that after all the crap I have been through this week and a very gracious mother who is had paid for all that. I don't mean don't advise me, please do, just "what now!"

I don't see how it could be hardware, it is brand new. I also set the mouse pad back to factory settings, it took me a couple of attempts but it seems to have stopped and it has a two year manufactures warranty.
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#26
RE: Right in the middle of posting the rap thread.
(December 21, 2015 at 7:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I don't need to hear that after all the crap I have been through this week and a very gracious mother who is had paid for all that. I don't mean don't advise me, please do, just "what now!"

I don't see how it could be hardware, it is brand new. I also set the mouse pad back to factory settings, it took me a couple of attempts but it seems to have stopped and it has a two year manufactures warranty.

Well, the thing is, did you change the mouse settings?  I have to assume not.  So either it's hardware, or a Windows update decided you needed to "improve" your mouse performance. If the mouse started working RIGHT after you tried factory settings, you're fine. If you had to restart your computer, try factory settings a few times, restart again, try again, then the "fix" might have been coincidental.

But on a new system, sometimes new software installations or especially Windows updates can bugger something. TBH I don't think mousepads really fail that often, so my guess is you'll be fine.
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