Women's clothes?

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Okay so a bunch of faculty participants were found to be sexists.
How exactly does this equate as evidence to pay gap discriminated against women?

If you want me to explain to you what these words mean, please just say ...

In a randomized double-blind study (n = 127), science faculty from research-intensive universities rated the application materials of a student—who was randomly assigned either a male or female name—for a laboratory manager position. Faculty participants rated the male applicant as significantly more competent and hireable than the (identical) female applicant. These participants also selected a higher starting salary and offered more career mentoring to the male applicant.

Yeah, right.
This study of yours were used to access the opinion of a bunch of faculty participants.
Opinion is not evidence, this opinion of a bunch of faculty participants is not anything near a 100 miles of evidence for women around the world being oppressed and discriminated against by a pay gap, all it shows is that the very few amount of participants in the study are highly opinionated, perhaps sexist, nothing more.

If you want to realize how dismissible these "studies" are, go to google and search for "a study confirms that god exists" or "researchers prove god"
You will be presented with "proofs" for Hell, Heaven, God and more atrocities.
It's always advisable to take these things with a grain of salt.

[popsthebuilder]

See we are not making a claim.
You are making a claim that women are discriminated against and there indeed is a pay gap.
It's not our job to prove your claim.
And until there is proof, it can be dismissed the say way God is dismissed.

The possibility of God cannot be proven of denied. It is equally the burden of those who believe there is no God to produce proof as it is for those who do believe.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[popsthebuilder]

"Is there a God?"
"Yes"
"Okay, prove it."
"I can't. But there is a God."


"Is there a pay gap discriminated against women?"
"Yes"
"Okay, prove it."
"I can't. But there is a pay gap discriminated against women."

Is there no GOD? Yes. Proove it?

Goes both ways.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[popsthebuilder]

The most damning evidence comes from transgendered people who have worked one part of their career as one gender and the second half as another gender. Trans women find they get less respect, lower pay and fewer opportunities. That could be because they are trans you say, ignoring all the while that eventually many of them manage to hide their medical histories. But trans men find that the opposite happens for them. They get better pay, more respect and more opportunities.

Know those religious nuts that think they had an experience with God and that is evidence for the existence of God?
What a bunch of numbnuts right?

Indeed it is to the individual who experienced it. Pretty basic.



Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Yeah, right.
This study of yours were used to access the opinion of a bunch of faculty participants.
Opinion is not evidence, this opinion of a bunch of faculty participants is not anything near a 100 miles of evidence for women around the world being oppressed and discriminated against by a pay gap, all it shows is that the very few amount of participants in the study are highly opinionated, perhaps sexist, nothing more.

So what exactly would be evidence? Whatever is presented to you, you say it is not evidence. You've not only moved the goal posts, you've now removed them from the field completely. Just like a theist when presented with evidence of evolution.

You do realise that as with all scientific studies, there's never a single bit of evidence that proves something either true or false don't you? You are guilty of Binary religious thinking

This is why we collect a body of evidence and create theories which are testable. This was just one piece of evidence. There are plenty of other studies:

https://www.hastac.org/blogs/superadmin/...Dh.twitter

http://www.thelocal.de/jobs/article/wome...s-than-men

If you want to realize how dismissible these "studies" are, go to google and search for "a study confirms that god exists" or "researchers prove god"
You will be presented with "proofs" for Hell, Heaven, God and more atrocities.
It's always advisable to take these things with a grain of salt.

How exactly are they comparable? Just saying they are comparable without describing why is pointless and can be ignored.

[Homeless Nutter]

Is there no GOD? Yes. Proove it?

Goes both ways.

Actually - no, it doesn't. You might be projecting... Logically - you can't prove a negative statement. [Edit]Proponents of the existence of ill-defined imaginary beings - like gods - can always make up another characteristic, to bypass any evidence to the contrary. "I can't see your god." - "That's because it's invisible.", "Your god allows for evil" - "That's because free will and junk.", "Your god doesn't do anything." - "Mysterious ways and stuff". And so on... [/Edit]

You don't believe me? Try:

Is there no Tooth Fairy? Prove it.

Well - so do you believe in Tooth Fairy now, since you can't prove that there is no Tooth Fairy?

[popsthebuilder]

How does discussing means at which a crime might be detoured make rape excusable.

Your logic is flawed there sweetie. Not my fault either.

Get over yourself.

You can make up stuff and draw false conclusions all you want, just don't assume (as you evidently really have a passion for) that I am advocating tape. It makes you look really desperate to paint me as some bad guy while you are the one calling people names and drawing faulty conclusions.

Again, I'm sorry you don't like the way I work things. To me political correctness is a disease. People get offended, it happens. If you think I'm going to avoid difficult to topics just incase I might hurt someone's feelings then you are sorely mistaken, much like you're mistaken about me in your assumption.

You seem fairly intelligent, so perhaps you had some traumatizing experience that has veiled your general perception. If that is the case then I am sorry for you, but I didn't do anything to you.

Perhaps we could attempt to be cordial to one another. From there, maybe you could explain your view were I could understand it. Maybe visa versa. But I do know that no one will learn anything while just throwing insults about.

So, what I'm saying is that I do apologize for offending you, and I will attempt to be less abrasive in communication with you. I hope that you are willing to set aside your bias as well.

Peace

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

We've been over this several times, Rainman. Discussing risk minimization doesn't make rape excusable; assigning blame to the victim does. What's wrong with your brain?
 
I'm not assuming that you're advocating rape. You are excusing rape, by maintaining that men are unable to control their sexual urges when faced with the sight of exposed skin. You made that abundantly  clear when you likened a rape scenario to the average person's inability to resist free goodies being offered at the grocery store, AND when you pointed out the absurdity of placing a piece of raw meat in front of a dog, and expecting the dog not to wolf it down. 

So I'll freely admit to name-calling, Fucko. But drawing faulty conclusions? Hell, no. Your analogies clearly demonstrate that you believe that the impulse to rape and act of rape can be marked by legitimate reasons. You don't like being referred to as a rape apologist? Too bad, so sad. 

That's what you are.

And btw:

You seem fairly intelligent, so perhaps you had some traumatizing experience that has veiled your general perception. If that is the case then I am sorry for you, but I didn't do anything to you.

You may want to avoid using straw that's been pulled out of your ass when setting out to build a straw man, Pop's. 
Nice try, though. 

Save your other bullshit apologies for someone who actually believes you have an ounce of decency or sincerity. You're a disease, and I will continue to address you as such.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Call me what you want. It really makes little difference to me. As if I am on this earth to appease you of all people.

I hope, one day that deep seeded hatred will leave you be.

Didn't say rape was the fault of the victim. Not once.

Peace

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[popsthebuilder]

Is there no GOD? Yes. Proove it?

Goes both ways.

Actually - no, it doesn't. You might be projecting... Logically - you can't prove a negative statement. You don't believe me? Try:

Is there no Tooth Fairy? Prove it.

Well - so do you believe in Tooth Fairy now, since you can't prove that there is no Tooth Fairy?

If you can't prove a negative then why do you claim there is no God as if you know?

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[Homeless Nutter]

If you can't prove a negative then why do you claim there is no God as if you know?

I only claim, that no one has presented sufficient evidence for the existence of gods and until someone does - I'm going to disregard gods, in the same way I disregard Tooth Fairy, Aliens and Underpants Gnomes.

[c172]

Cleveland rocks.