Women's clothes?

[Homeless Nutter]

Are you suggesting men to suppress how their sexuality works?

Consciously suppressing sexuality, as well as many other natural instincts - at least to a certain extent - is what our civilization has been built upon.

If you see you mate's attractive girlfriend - do you shamelessly hit on her, risking social backlash? Or do you - in fact - suppress your sexuality, for the sake of social norms and just beat off to her FB photo later?

I think we all know how our sexuality works - and that it needs to be controlled, or else we revert to behaving like a bunch of apes, fighting to death over the right to f*ck.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Yeah, no shit Sherlock, of course staring is rude.
We are talking about women's clothes and how it is supposedly objectifying a women for looking at her when she dress sexy.

Well, it kinda is. Women don't always dress "sexy" to impress guys.

Whoever said women always dress sexy to impress guys?
Furthermore, I do not agreeing that it is objectifying to look at a women that dress sexy. It is how men are wired, it has nothing to do with objectifying. Men are attracted to how women look.

[Heat]

Yeah, no shit Sherlock, of course staring is rude.
We are talking about women's clothes and how it is supposedly objectifying a women for looking at her when she dress sexy.

Well, it kinda is. Women don't always dress "sexy" to impress guys.

What do they dress sexy for other than to impress other people?


Why the fuck are they trying to impress themselves? Especially when they can't even see themselves unless standing in front of a mirror.

There's no logic to this statement, only scapegoating so you don't have to agree on a single point with someone in opposition to your position.


(They are trying to dress sexy for other people, not always the opposite gender, but to claim it's nothing to do with trying to impress others is a lie)

[Catholic_Lady]

Yeah, no shit Sherlock, of course staring is rude.
We are talking about women's clothes and how it is supposedly objectifying a women for looking at her when she dress sexy.

Well, it kinda is. Women don't always dress "sexy" to impress guys.

Yep. 

Some men seem to think the world revolves around them. Truth is a lot of times women dress the way they do because it makes them feel good and confident, or they're big into fashion and that is how they express themselves. Believe it or not, it isn't all about you all the time.  

A woman dressing sexy is not an invitation (or an excuse) for a man to act like a disrespectful creep.

[Catholic_Lady]

Are you suggesting men to suppress how their sexuality works?

Consciously suppressing sexuality, as well as many other natural instincts - at least to a certain extent - is what our civilization has been built upon.

If you see you mate's attractive girlfriend - do you shamelessly hit on her, risking social backlash?  Or do you - in fact - suppress your sexuality, for the sake of social norms and just beat off to her FB photo later?

I think we all know how our sexuality works - and that it needs to be controlled, or else we revert to behaving like a bunch of apes, fighting to death over the right to f*ck.

Wow, I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with HN lol.

[Heat]

Well, it kinda is. Women don't always dress "sexy" to impress guys.

Yep. 

Some men seem to think the world revolves around them. Truth is a lot of times women dress the way they do because it makes them feel good and confident, or they're big into fashion and that is how they express themselves. Believe it or not, it isn't all about you all the time.  

A woman dressing sexy is not an invitation (or an excuse) for a man to act like a disrespectful creep.

They want to express themselves, yet excuse me for acknowledging that?

Who the fuck are these women who have 0 self awareness of the world around them and the people in it?

Why would you want to feel confident in dressing minimalistic, if not for the purpose of flaunting your body? Yet HOW DARE ANYONE LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE CLEARLY DOING.

These arguments are simply and utterly nonsensical.

[Mr.wizard]

Well, it kinda is. Women don't always dress "sexy" to impress guys.

What do they dress sexy for other than to impress other people?


Why the fuck are they trying to impress themselves? Especially when they can't even see themselves unless standing in front of a mirror.

There's no logic to this statement, only scapegoating so you don't have to agree on a single point with someone in opposition to your position.


(They are trying to dress sexy for other people, not always the opposite gender, but to claim it's nothing to do with trying to impress others is a lie)

This is total Bullshit, women like to feel sexy and they like to wear things that make them feel sexy. Everyone likes to leave the house looking good it makes people feel good, its not always about trying to impress someone, its about self esteem.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Are you suggesting men to suppress how their sexuality works?

Consciously suppressing sexuality, as well as many other natural instincts - at least to a certain extent - is what our civilization has been built upon.

If you see you mate's attractive girlfriend - do you shamelessly hit on her, risking social backlash?  Or do you - in fact - suppress your sexuality, for the sake of social norms and just beat off to her FB photo later?

I think we all know how our sexuality works - and that it needs to be controlled, or else we revert to behaving like a bunch of apes, fighting to death over the right to f*ck.

I agree with you that sexuality has to be controlled to an extend, but it is never okay to suppress sexuality. Never.
Shaming men for looking at women that dress sexy is suppressing sexuality which is sexist by all means, furthermore the supposedly claim that women are being objectified because of how men's sexuality work and therefore men should alter how their sexuality works is so sexist it's baffling.

[The Valkyrie]

It's called being comfortable.

You know, like men walking around in a pair of tight shorts and no shirt.

[Catholic_Lady]

Well, it kinda is. Women don't always dress "sexy" to impress guys.

Whoever said women always dress sexy to impress guys?
Furthermore, I do not agreeing that it is objectifying to look at a women that dress sexy. It is how men are wired, it has nothing to do with objectifying. Men are attracted to how women look.

You are correct, men were wired to be sexually attracted to the way women look. Again, no one is saying otherwise. What we're saying is that staring at a girl you see out somewhere or whatever, is rude. Just as it is rude to stare at anyone. And in that sense, it does become objectifying because you are being disrespectful to her as a human being by continuously being rude enough to stare as though it were just some thing... and not a person who deserves more respect than to be treated rudely like that.

I've talked to my husband about this many times, and he says that when he sees a very pretty girl, he simply acknowledges and appreciates the fact that she's pretty, and then goes on about his day. He doesn't sit there and stare and start thinking dirty thoughts. It is entirely possible to just go on about your day and not get creepy.