Transexuals

[paulpablo]

Why am I waking up with the opposite genitalia?  I possibly enough savings if I really want to buy surgery so I wouldn't have to suck it up, it might deplete my savings but I'd survive.  

If I was transformed into a good looking female there'd be no issue at all I'd just have great lesbian sex forever and not have to worry about STDs

You are "waking up with the opposite genitalia" because I'm asking you to consider what it would be like in transgendered shoes (so to speak); what it would feel like if your anatomical gender did not match your brain.  Why is empathy so difficult for some people?

That would be an unreal science fiction scenario so answering it wouldn't really help anything.  I'd probably wake up and possibly sell my story to the newspapers that I'd magically been given a vagina overnight and ask to keep my identity a secret, masturbate loads and experience the female orgasm multiple times, then maybe if I don't like it hopefully pay for surgery to get a cock back.  I don't know if I'd trust the NHS to do it but maybe they're not so bad.

[LadyForCamus]

You are "waking up with the opposite genitalia" because I'm asking you to consider what it would be like in transgendered shoes (so to speak); what it would feel like if your anatomical gender did not match your brain.  Why is empathy so difficult for some people?

That would be an unreal science fiction scenario so answering it wouldn't really help anything.  I'd probably wake up and possibly sell my story to the newspapers that I'd magically been given a vagina overnight and ask to keep my identity a secret, masturbate loads and experience the female orgasm multiple times, then maybe if I don't like it hopefully pay for surgery to get a cock back.  I don't know if I'd trust the NHS to do it but maybe they're not so bad.

Okay, now I think you're not taking this conversation seriously on purpose. I'm out.

[Losty]

Does NHS cover mental health care?

Yeh it covers mental health care. If you didn't notice that I didn't mention insurance and you're not too familiar with the NHS you might have also missed my post afterwards where I said that my opinion on SRS being free on the NHS would change if they weren't already suffering with funding and waiting times in accident and emergency wards.

The NHS does have a lot of funding but at the moment people seem to be protesting that there isn't enough funding, waiting times are way too long and so on.

So if there were not as many complaints about waiting times and treatment in emergency situations, and it wasn't in the newspapers about an NHS crisis and doctors protesting and so on, then I would fully endorse people who wanted surgery to become whatever they want, have speech therapy to align to their new gender, mental therapy before and after, follow up appointments and so on.

There's a difference between what I'm actually saying and saying there should be no surgeries for people who want to change gender or physically change gender.
Funding for cancer treatment and support isn't great in the NHS so they have charitable donations for this, I don't see why there can't be a foundation of charitable donations for people who want surgery to change gender, maybe there already is, I don't know.

I'm basically saying that it's my opinion, not an expert opinion by far.  That if the NHS is having trouble with waiting times and funding for emergency services that priority should overtake the priority of emotional distress to some degree, but I'm sure there'd be some exceptions in which I'd probably change my mind about that.

Yea, I missed a lot of stuff when I was sleeping xD
And I had been talking to steberben (sp) too so I got mixed up. Sounds like you guys have a crappy health care system. Not as bad as ours but still crappy.

[Losty]

Well one is a real medical issue and the other is you pretending to be dense...again

No just a genuine question, I want to know what it's like.  I don't think you could tell me what the difference is exactly unless you've really wanted to look like Mike Tyson and also wanted a sex change operation, but just whichever one it is you do know about.

I don't think I could tell you how it feels at all as I was born in a body that I happen to love. Mayhaps added a few more stretch marks that I would prefer not to have over the years but I'm genuinely happy to be how I am.

Like I said before, one is a real medical condition and one is not.

[Losty]

You are "waking up with the opposite genitalia" because I'm asking you to consider what it would be like in transgendered shoes (so to speak); what it would feel like if your anatomical gender did not match your brain.  Why is empathy so difficult for some people?

That would be an unreal science fiction scenario so answering it wouldn't really help anything.  I'd probably wake up and possibly sell my story to the newspapers that I'd magically been given a vagina overnight and ask to keep my identity a secret, masturbate loads and experience the female orgasm multiple times, then maybe if I don't like it hopefully pay for surgery to get a cock back.  I don't know if I'd trust the NHS to do it but maybe they're not so bad.

I don't know how to respond to you because I cannot tell if you're intentionally being annoying or if you genuinely cannot decipher when you should take something literally and when you should not. I have close friends that really struggle with this so if that's the case for you then I'm sorry for saying you're being intentionally dense.

[paulpablo]

That would be an unreal science fiction scenario so answering it wouldn't really help anything.  I'd probably wake up and possibly sell my story to the newspapers that I'd magically been given a vagina overnight and ask to keep my identity a secret, masturbate loads and experience the female orgasm multiple times, then maybe if I don't like it hopefully pay for surgery to get a cock back.  I don't know if I'd trust the NHS to do it but maybe they're not so bad.

Okay, now I think you're not taking this conversation seriously on purpose.  I'm out.

You're asking me to imagine I wake up tomorrow with a vagina.  That is a ridiculous scenario with a ridiculous answer.

If you ask me to empathize with people who feel they are born in the wrong bodies I can only do that to the extent that I feel jealous of other people's bodies all the time.

I won't lie and say I can totally empathize with what someone who is transgender is going through.

1) I'm not transgender.
2)I can't feel other people's feelings.

I can empathize to the extent that someone is in distress and I hope they get what they're looking, they have the money for their surgery or some organization funds it. but I don't think it's worth tens of thousands of pounds of NHS money considering the state of the NHS right now.

[LadyForCamus]

Not being a dick, but you don't strike me as a very empathetic person in general based on your thoughts regarding the transgendered. I could be wrong, though. Just saying.

[Faith No More]

It looks as if Target is weighing in on the issue.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory...d-38519895

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Okay, since you have trouble imagining the "wake up with a vagina" scenario, let's try it the other way.

You wake up one day, just as you are. Just as you have always been. You KNOW who you are...

...yet everyone you meet calls you Susan. They refer to you as "she" and "her", and expect you to wear dresses. When you explain that you're really a guy named Paul, you get the most horrible reactions, are cast aside from friends and family and social circles, and are subject to constant fear of attack if you try to just do what you do.

Yes, I'm proposing a similar "magical" scenario, where the roles are reversed, but you really need to understand that in every way that your brain tells you who you are, including what your sense of gender is, they feel the same... the only difference being that their bodies develop according to the chromosomes, not according to the DNA-set which dictates how the "normal" (I use that word loosely, since everything that happens in biology is "normal"; some things just occur more commonly than others) brain develops. Instead, your genetics/epigenetics caused your brain to develop in the way that the female brain normally develops, instead.

Try... try very very hard... to listen to what the trans community is actually telling you about their experiences, instead of projecting your own opinions onto them and failing to empathize. That's why we constantly have to reprimand the theists who come here for doing to us, when they say we "really" worship Satan and are angry at god, or whatever.

[Jackalope]

It looks as if Target is weighing in on the issue.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory...d-38519895

Time to go drop some dough at Target.- and tell them why.