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Salieri in Amadeus
#31
RE: Salieri in Amadeus
I myself am not a big fan of the early viennese classic style for much the same reason. To be fair though, one should take into account that the baroque period ranges from the early 1600s through 1750, while the viennese classical period strictly speaking goes from 1780 to the 1820s, and if we're even counting the 1820 to early romantic, it is even shorter.
For classical in the wider sense, we need to count the Bachs, at least CPE, who did good and is merely still under-represented in concerts imho.
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#32
RE: Salieri in Amadeus
(May 7, 2016 at 9:09 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: However - latest scientific research suggests, that St Bernards as a breed are not really good at playing piano, or arranging for string quartets, what with them having those large paws and all.

Golden Retrievers however are known as great pianists.... although they can't seem to handle violins.



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#33
RE: Salieri in Amadeus
Still, chimps are more talented at actually playing the damn thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM9YTlF_ErY

And yes, that was Peter Gabriel filming this. I can only hope one of these days, he'll have perfected the whole "teaching bonobos to play instruments" to an extent that he'll actually have an all-simian-but-non-human backing band.
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#34
RE: Salieri in Amadeus
This really isn't about Mozart and Salieri. Even back in the days of the orginal stageplay, this story was better taken as allegorical. It's about a lot of things implicitly that are more important than the purely imagined conflict between Mozart and Salieri.

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#35
RE: Salieri in Amadeus
(May 9, 2016 at 12:54 am)bennyboy Wrote: This really isn't about Mozart and Salieri.  Even back in the days of the orginal stageplay, this story was better taken as allegorical.  It's about a lot of things implicitly that are more important than the purely imagined conflict between Mozart and Salieri.

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Sounds intriguing, care to elaborate?
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RE: Salieri in Amadeus
(May 7, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Golden Retrievers however are known as great pianists.... although they can't seem to handle violins.

I remember that experiment. It was about their absolute hearing. Not surprisingly so, since they hear better than humans. What I find most fascinating about dogs is their capability to form an absolute symbiosis with us. They read us like not other being on earth.
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(May 9, 2016 at 5:25 pm)abaris Wrote:
(May 7, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Golden Retrievers however are known as great pianists.... although they can't seem to handle violins.

I remember that experiment. It was about their absolute hearing. Not surprisingly so, since they hear better than humans. What I find most fascinating about dogs is their capability to form an absolute symbiosis with us. They read us like not other being on earth.

Dawkins writes in "The Ancestors' Tale" that they probably already started evolving towards being compatible with humans for a very long time before we started to domesticate and breed them, simply by following and adapting to human settlements as their survival strategy. Natural selection would, I guess, be driven by the fact that those most attracted to human company will automatically stay in that group. This adaptation is thought to have been mutually beneficial from early on because such groups of "benign wolves" hanging around would have kept predators away.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Salieri in Amadeus
(May 9, 2016 at 5:39 pm)Alex K Wrote: Dawkins writes in "The Ancestors' Tale" that they probably started evolving towards being compatible with humans for a verx long time before we started to domesticate and breed them, simply by following and adapting to human settlements as their survival strategy.

That's pretty much the accepted standard these days. But it speaks of their intelligence. They are able to read a different species, putting themselves in their place and take it from there.
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