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freegans
#11
RE: freegans
I can't believe you think eating out of a dumpster is just sooo gross when you actually look at what they put in/on some of these foods and factor in the over packaging of most companies. Yes sanitary methods are important. A lot of freegans do grow their own fruits and vegetables. They also get things like clothing and non-food out of dumpsters. You'd be surprised the perfectly good things corporate chains throw out. Not to say they don't donate to food banks as well. Our church gets lots of donations from supermarkets. The dumpster part of freeganism is the controversial media selling aspect the public is fixated on, but don't knock it till you try it I say.
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#12
RE: freegans
As Tack says, many organisations throw out perfectly good food, because of obsessiveness about health and safety. So, eating from a dumpster wouldn't necessarily consist of week-old pizzas, if you knew where to look. Freeganism sounds like a very ethical lifestyle, though a pretty extreme and probably unnecessary one.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken

'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.

'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain

'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
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#13
RE: freegans
(August 8, 2010 at 1:37 pm)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: As Tack says, many organisations throw out perfectly good food, because of obsessiveness about health and safety. So, eating from a dumpster wouldn't necessarily consist of week-old pizzas, if you knew where to look. Freeganism sounds like a very ethical lifestyle, though a pretty extreme and probably unnecessary one.
Yes, but the food will have been in a dumpster, which may have contained other bad food items. I don't believe dumpsters are regularly cleaned, so the amount of bacteria growing in them will be extensive.

Dumpsters are also home to scavengers; rats and the like.

Plus, there is no way of knowing when the food was thrown out. What about food that needs to be refrigerated, or frozen? You are overlooking some of the main health risks.
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#14
RE: freegans
(August 7, 2010 at 5:22 pm)tackattack Wrote: The dumpster part of freeganism is the controversial media selling aspect the public is fixated on, but don't knock it till you try it I say.


If I applied this to everything, I'b be fucked.

I don't have to try Islam to knock it, I know it's batshit insane by reading about it and seeing the evidence of it's believers. Same goes with eating out of a dumpster; I don't have to try it to know that it can't be sanitary.

I don't have to try arsenic to know it will kill me, I know it will because of the evidence.

So no, I don't have to try dumpster diving to knock it, I can know it's not for me by looking at it and reading about it.

If someone else wants to put their health at risk, let them have a blast.
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#15
RE: freegans
@Adrian, you know how long it's been in there because you case the place. For instance, when I did it I knew which days were veggie throw days and which were meat, etc. I usually showed up right after they had been put in there and rarely went any deeper than the top level. Bacteria from extraneous sources of a few minutes in the dumpster really is inconsequential compared to someone preparing your meal at a restaurant (out of your sight) due to the over-packaging. Ask any corporate food store and there's a difference between a sell by date and a use by date. Meats and dairy are the only real sketchy areas from experience, and you develop a nose for it. It ended up being far too much work on a daily basis for me to maintain with a job and a social life, etc. I have a lot of respect for those who can maintain it and I can appreciate the message.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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#16
RE: freegans
I'm sure some people will go to those lengths to get food tackattack, but you aren't going to convince me that it is hygienic. I'm afraid bacteria from a dumpster, even for a few minutes, is enough to give you a bad stomach. It will be all over the packaging, all over your hands, and will eventually get to the food.

It doesn't matter if you wash your hands thoroughly each time either; eventually bacteria will make it to the food, and you'll eat it.

"Freeganism" is a reckless activity. These people would be much better off talking with the supermarkets in the first place. Believe it or not, but supermarkets don't actually want to throw away food; it decreases their profit through the loss in sales, and the cost of disposal.
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#17
RE: freegans
Good point Adrian,

The only problem I see, is the liability they would face if they sold or even gave the food away instead of throwing it out. It is one thing to have someone raid your garbage without your knowledge and quite another thing to hand them foodstuffs knowing they intend to consume them. I suppose you could set up a contract, but I doubt it would adequately protect the company when the case hit the courts, which it eventually would.

Rhizo
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#18
RE: freegans
(August 9, 2010 at 5:11 am)Tiberius Wrote: I'm sure some people will go to those lengths to get food tackattack, but you aren't going to convince me that it is hygienic. I'm afraid bacteria from a dumpster, even for a few minutes, is enough to give you a bad stomach. It will be all over the packaging, all over your hands, and will eventually get to the food.

It doesn't matter if you wash your hands thoroughly each time either; eventually bacteria will make it to the food, and you'll eat it.

"Freeganism" is a reckless activity. These people would be much better off talking with the supermarkets in the first place. Believe it or not, but supermarkets don't actually want to throw away food; it decreases their profit through the loss in sales, and the cost of disposal.

Instead of rummaging through skips, freegans could just wait until the end of the working day, when shops often throw out out-of-date goods that are in perfectly good shape. That way, they could get the goods as soon as they went into the skip, or they could make an unofficial arrangement to be given out of date stuff.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken

'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.

'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain

'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
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#19
RE: freegans
Freeloading hippies.

Pay for the twinky.



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#20
RE: freegans
(August 9, 2010 at 11:49 am)The Omnissiunt One Wrote:
(August 9, 2010 at 5:11 am)Tiberius Wrote: I'm sure some people will go to those lengths to get food tackattack, but you aren't going to convince me that it is hygienic. I'm afraid bacteria from a dumpster, even for a few minutes, is enough to give you a bad stomach. It will be all over the packaging, all over your hands, and will eventually get to the food.

It doesn't matter if you wash your hands thoroughly each time either; eventually bacteria will make it to the food, and you'll eat it.

"Freeganism" is a reckless activity. These people would be much better off talking with the supermarkets in the first place. Believe it or not, but supermarkets don't actually want to throw away food; it decreases their profit through the loss in sales, and the cost of disposal.

Instead of rummaging through skips, freegans could just wait until the end of the working day, when shops often throw out out-of-date goods that are in perfectly good shape. That way, they could get the goods as soon as they went into the skip, or they could make an unofficial arrangement to be given out of date stuff.

That is assuming that A) shops regularly have garbage pickups to offset the inevitable biohazard, B) the bin in which things are thrown is relatively clean and C) people are kind enough to throw only food waste or a few other things, as opposed to vomit and friends.

It's an imperfect world, and we never get just what we want.
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